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Westminstenders: War and Weirdos

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RedToothBrush · 03/01/2020 21:34

With weirdos set to run No10 and Trump seemingly having started a new war in the Middle East, 2020 already looks set to be a cracking year.

To start off your year, it turns out that chinese curse about interesting times is actually a fallacy...

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times

Happy New Year.

May we make 2030...

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NoCountry · 05/01/2020 15:04

I must be a lot older and more cynical than you Grinchly, it hasn't shocked me at all. My ability to be shocked by the craven attitude of UK govs to the US was wiped out by Blair-Bush Iraq travesty

Same goes for my ability to be shocked by the power of the US to subvert any laws, commit any act of terrorism while denouncing others for the same

NoCountry · 05/01/2020 15:13

Come to heel, poodle

Absolutely.

Can't remember if it was Jeremy Hardy or Linda Smith (both gone, and both so sorely needed Sad) who quipped, when PM Blair was kept waiting ages by Bush for some pre-Iraq 'discussion' -
'It must have been really uncomfortable for him because he's not allowed on the furniture'

DGRossetti · 05/01/2020 16:26

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DGRossetti · 05/01/2020 16:46

Just noticed/been reminded that some pensioners are in for a nasty loss of £70/week in April.

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/thousands-pensioners-lose-70-week-17512955

Still, at least we can still afford to back the US in pointless acts of aggression. Long may it continue.

ListeningQuietly · 05/01/2020 16:54

The Military Industrial complex drive the world's economies and politics.
Just think how much money there would be for everything else everywhere if arms sales were not such a dominant thing

Grinchly · 05/01/2020 17:03

nocountry that sounds very Linda Smith to me. She once did a gig in my famously gentrified northern village, home to many luvvies, hippies, and yummy mummies, and declared she had walked to the venue 'via the Juice Bar Quarter'. Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 05/01/2020 17:08

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/03/us-failing-to-give-uk-advance-warning-of-attacks-says-senior-mp

Tom Tugendhat, the chair of the foreign affairs committee in the last parliament, complained that

the US was routinely failing to keep the UK informed of such decisions in advance.

Tugendhat told BBC News:

“I’ve long believed that the purpose of having allies is that we can surprise our enemies and not each other,

and it’s been a pattern, sadly, which has been a bit of a shame,
that the US administration of late has not shared with us, and that is a matter of concern.”

Urging the US administration to “share much more closely with allies” in the future,
he added:

“The government needs to make some very quick choices on the safety of citizens overseas and the security of British personnel.”

kinsss · 05/01/2020 17:10

Anyone going to the Brexit Day party lol. Seems you have to pay to attend. Or something....

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/nigel-farage-january-31st-brexit-party-1-6450978

BigChocFrenzy · 05/01/2020 17:14

Anti-Isis coalition suspends operations as Iraqi MPs vote to expel US troop

One of Suleiman's responsibilities was organising the fight by Iran-backed (Shia) forces against IS

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/05/anti-isis-coalition-suspends-operations-as-iraqi-mps-vote-to-expel-us-troops

BigChocFrenzy · 05/01/2020 17:20

Farage makes his mugs supporters pay his BXP company for everything
With 5-10,000 places to flog, another nice little earner

I wonder if those who paid to stand as MPs in Tory seats - and were dumped - will pay again for a celebratory party

BigChocFrenzy · 05/01/2020 17:23

Then we have the "Festival of Brexit" in 2021 or 2022 to look forward to, at an estimated cost of £120 million and counting

  • so every UK taxpayer will be mugged for the privilege

I wonder if the economy by then will be in a state to be celebrated

colouringinpro · 05/01/2020 17:28

all I can offer...

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dontcallmelen · 05/01/2020 17:49

PMK as always my thanks to RED & all contributors.
Nothing useful to add, except a sense of mounting horror

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derxa · 05/01/2020 18:49

a sense of mounting horror Yes Sad

BigChocFrenzy · 05/01/2020 19:03

Joining a Trumpian war in the ME / Persian Gulf region would kill & main our young men and women,
while making life even more dangerous for the poor sods who live there
... and for our cargo ships and every other British asset in the region.

DGRossetti · 05/01/2020 19:07

Iran is restarting it's nuclear enrichment programme.

Any bombs only need to reach Israel, not the US.

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DGRossetti · 05/01/2020 19:09

Joining a Trumpian war in the ME / Persian Gulf region would kill & main our young men and women, while making life even more dangerous for the poor sods who live there ... and for our cargo ships and every other British asset in the region.

As a UK resident, I'd be more worried about disaffected radicals going on the rampage in the UK. I don't mind dying, but I'd hate to see my children cry, to quote the old blues song ....

ListeningQuietly · 05/01/2020 19:14

Karma - My Name is Earl style
www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/01/04/ministers-set-lose-farm-subsidies-vote-brexit-week/

derxa · 05/01/2020 19:15

As a UK resident, I'd be more worried about disaffected radicals going on the rampage in the UK. I don't mind dying, but I'd hate to see my children cry, to quote the old blues song .... I agree with this 100%

yolofish · 05/01/2020 21:05

As a UK resident, I'd be more worried about disaffected radicals going on the rampage in the UK. I don't mind dying, but I'd hate to see my children cry, to quote the old blues song

I dont think this is all we have to worry about, terrible though it would be. I am afraid of what will happen to our sons/daughters/brothers/sisters in the armed forces, the potential for hostage taking is immense. Also afraid of what will happen to the western prisoners, eg Nazanin. Simply to imagine another/yet more terrorist attacks in the UK seems quite simplistic to me.

Stinkyeddie · 05/01/2020 21:18

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mrslaughan · 05/01/2020 21:28

@yolofish - this is exactly my fear. This was an assassination of a high ranking official of a foreign government. It will legitimise this kind of action for some. It makes everyone properly fair game - and that petrified me.

yolofish · 05/01/2020 21:32

An assassination of a high ranking official of a foreign govt, whilst in a third country, against which no war has been declared... I am sure it is not a legal way to proceed, although god knows in these days why anyone would take note of legalities, no one seems to.

RedToothBrush · 05/01/2020 21:53

this is exactly my fear. This was an assassination of a high ranking official of a foreign government. It will legitimise this kind of action for some. It makes everyone properly fair game - and that petrified me.

Trump advocating war crimes doesn't really help...

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kinsss · 05/01/2020 21:53

I wouldn't worry. The UK is off the radar now and has been for a long time regarding such incidents.

Some might think differently, but it will not wash. Sorry now. But that is the reality.

Brexit will sort it out. OMG.