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Westminstenders: Penny dropping time

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RedToothBrush · 17/12/2019 08:12

Johnson already seems to be hinting at protections for workers rights and the environment that he promised are to be dropped.

Along with enshrining Brexit in law to the end of Dec 2020 thus creating another Brexit no deal date. This time without any safety net in parliament.

"won't Johnson be more liberal than he suggested" they cry

About that...

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BigChocFrenzy · 17/12/2019 22:03

"I remember a time, as you probably do too, when charitable and voluntary work was underaken without letting everyone know about it via social media; I think they call it 'virtue signalling'."

I remember a time when posters wouldn't make spiteful remarks when someone replies to a question that poster asked

Peregrina · 17/12/2019 22:03

There still are people who quietly go about doing voluntary work, without making a song and dance about it, and apparently unnoticed. Usually though, someone does notice.

BigChocFrenzy · 17/12/2019 22:08

Some friends who do voluntary work have commented they do get yelled at sometimes for not being able to give out money,
which admittedly would solve an immediate problem

I suppose it's just hitting out at people available to hit, who they assume have money to spare,
but it has apparently got very dodgy at times and made them think seriously about continuing

Random18 · 17/12/2019 22:09

I got caught up on a thread of playgroups and volunteers of all things in AIBU tonight 🙈

Thankfully the lovely friends I made from helping out at playgroups are nothing like the MN posters Grin

tobee · 17/12/2019 22:11

When my dad took early retirement, he was talking to a friend who had retired a few years before him. My dad was saying that people kept asking him what he was going to do, and my dad felt pressured to give a full response to account for every part of his day. His friend gave him what my dad said was the best advice he'd had: "tell them to mind their own bloody business"

chatongris · 17/12/2019 22:11

I think they call it 'virtue signalling'.

What a vile hateful post.

tobee · 17/12/2019 22:13

Do you ever feel like some posters try to set other poster up? Hmm

thecatfromjapan · 17/12/2019 22:14

BigChoc, Oh, I'll be working for years yet. I don't have a pension to speak of. Eek! So I'm definitely squeezed middle. 😁

Hate You're being weird. You asked what people were doing; they answered. Please don't be weird. If you want to go and be strange, it's Christmas, so I'm sure you have family around to be hostile and alienating towards.

QueenOfThorns · 17/12/2019 22:15

Wow, that was unpleasant and uncalled for Shock

thecatfromjapan · 17/12/2019 22:20

Oh, that's a shame, BigChoc.

I'm finally beginning to prepare for Christmas.

We actually don't have a tree yet.

And there's an area nearby that has a really nice Christmas market, which I haven't even managed to visit yet.

And I haven't seen the Christmas lights in Regent Street/Oxford Circus or compared all the window displays!

One year, Selfridges had lots of Lindon landmarks made out of gingerbread. That was my favourite, ever.

So I'm looking forward to all that.

Peregrina · 17/12/2019 22:20

Can Tories deepen shallow roots

This is very interesting, but notice how a new Tory mayor has brought something privately owned back into public ownership. This hasn't been the Tory policy for yonks - it's been public sector bad, private sector good. I can't see how this will sit with the Johnsonite Conservatives. There look to be some interesting tensions.

1950s style Toryism did accept that a mixed economy was a good working model and after all MacMillan was the MP for Stockton on Tees, I believe (haven't looked him up.)

ListeningQuietly · 17/12/2019 22:23

Have a most excellent Christmas BigChocFrenzy
and yes, be careful with the Gluwein if you are not used to daytime booze Wink

PanemEtCircenses · 17/12/2019 22:25

I wouldn’t know what to put in my basket for the foodbank or when to dig deep for an all-too-necessary fundraiser without updates on social media. I for one am very grateful that busy women with many calls on their time and attention both volunteer and alert others to the biggest needs.

My beady eyes will be on examples of my username by this government - the ways they will try to appease their electorate with superficial tidbits, to distract from the neglect of everything that matters.

tobee · 17/12/2019 22:34

My GP surgery sent us a Christmas text message saying they'd set up a food bank collection box. They've not done that before,

BigChocFrenzy · 17/12/2019 22:39

peregrian Supermac managed to have 200,000 council homes built in a year when he was Housing minister
He wouldn't be fobbed off with excuses why it couldn't be done, just asked for a list of the roadblocks and sorted them all out quickly

Reportedly Gove is calling for the zeal of MacMillan
....to replenish the stock that MrsT sold off to bribe voters.

The Tories' eagerness to hold on to their Northern wc seats might just - if we're v v lucky - rescue us from the fate that the ERG intended from Brexit

Note how the Tories can go quite radical, to win new voters

OhYouBadBadKitten · 17/12/2019 22:42

pmk

CendrillonSings · 17/12/2019 22:45

Aside from his school, college, degree subject, party, job title, and winning exactly 365 seats in a General Election, I can’t think of anything Boris might have in common with Harold Macmillan... Wink

BigChocFrenzy · 17/12/2019 22:51

Harold MacMillan was a One Nation Tory
also a very competent and decent politican, respected by his party and beyond.

He was never sacked for lying

His MPs never said about him, as they did for BJ:
"All you can rely on with Boris is that he'll let you down"

He never had a former Tory PM and several former Tory ministers saying not to vote for him

chatongris · 17/12/2019 22:51

May have been discussed already but who watched Lisa Nandy's speech today? I feel like I don't know enough about her.

ChrismArseDarkly · 17/12/2019 22:58

Hate You're being weird

Weird is the norm for that one. There'll likely be a load of Albanian bollocks next

CendrillonSings · 17/12/2019 22:58

BigChoc I hate to break this to you, but no one cared about these nugatory details you’re obsessed with before polling day, and they certainly don’t now. As my post implied, I see no reason why Boris shouldn’t be a worthy successor to Macmillan. Indeed, given their spookily-similar backgrounds, it’s probably been a role Boris has been imagining for himself all his life.

ChrismArseDarkly · 17/12/2019 23:00

Lisa Nandy used to have a spot on Andrew Neil post-QT show. I liked her, she was serious and sensible

chatongris · 17/12/2019 23:02

Her speech was very warm and funny and intelligent. Lindsay Hoyle was obviously very touched by it.

thecatfromjapan · 17/12/2019 23:03

Cendrillon Don't you have any people around you in RL to alienate?

CendrillonSings · 17/12/2019 23:05

Don't you have any people around you in RL to alienate?

Well, obviously I don’t want to alienate them, so you lot get the benefit of my wise thoughts instead Wink

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