Westminstenders: Penny dropping time

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Johnson already seems to be hinting at protections for workers rights and the environment that he promised are to be dropped.

Along with enshrining Brexit in law to the end of Dec 2020 thus creating another Brexit no deal date. This time without any safety net in parliament.

"won't Johnson be more liberal than he suggested" they cry

About that...

Just when you think things can’t get much worse,

You wake up, it’s a new day....

And they get worse.

PMK

He has also said the new nurses wouldn’t come in for another 10 years (when he won’t be in power..)

I'm fascinated that Johnson apparently needs Nicky Morgan in his Cabinet at least temporarily to do this shit. Or is that more to smooth over a lot of the Jennifer Arcuri stuff? Or has Morgan agreed to support him through the forthcoming Russian stuff, and Penny Mordaunt was a bit less enthusiastic?

Sad and despondent PMK. I was giving up on the threads but now that things are happening I'm back again. I wonder what Friday will bring. I've lost all hope.

pmk

Suitably festive PMK picture.

I remember having an argument with my parents after the 1992 election (they were visiting me in England with me as I was running the London Marathon on the Saturday and they'd come to support me) that I didn't think Labour could ever win again because "Middle England" would never vote for them.......

They said I was wrong - which I was but I didn't predict Blair I was delighted when he won in 1997 (even if I can't remember if I actually voted for him as that was the election we were "door stepped" by Nicola) - but was totally disillusioned by the Iraq War which the Conservatives supported amongst other things

A very in-festive festive placemark

Had an email from the Lib Dem's bleating about BJ ....... this is why they shouldn't have bloody given him his election.

Buckle up - it's going to be really bumpy......

Pmk
Yep, agreed we are heading for a No Deal Brexit.

Weary Pmk
Is see morgan got her gong.
Justin welby being an utter thundercunt.
Good times.

From the last thread (re KS):

He's a good, upstanding & honest bloke but his actions of the last 3 years have been damaging to him (in a perception way)

To be honest, I doubt the average person in the street has the faintest clue what Keir Starmer has been doing for the last 3 years!

Had an email from the Lib Dem's bleating about BJ ....... this is why they shouldn't have bloody given him his election.

My view too. However, this is where we are.

I personally know that I didn't vote for this shower of shits, and my immediate family didn't. I have resolved that I must always put something in the food bank as a token of small steps to do good. It's a very modest contribution but we cannot rely on the Government, and it looks as though we can't rely on the compassion of many of our fellow citizens.

Prettybird - I had similar conversations with people in 1992 - Labour won't get in trotting out how good they did in 1945. I thought they were doomed. Then Smith and later Blair turned up, and turned the party round.

Now where Blair failed was that he didn't keep the 'traditional' voters on board. He didn't repair the ravages of Thatcherism.

Peregrina - there's an alternative universe where John Smith didn't die prematurely

Carried over from the previous thread:

Would Johnson have won a Scholarship to Oxford if he'd been to an ordinary state school? I suspect not however clever he might be.

PMK

Johnson couldn't give a rat's arse about policy. It's too much bother. So other dreary-but-very-nasty individuals will put ideas in his head and he will 'drive them' from the back seat, champagning it out the window and lapping up the adoration of the politically illiterate.

Well, that's a turnup for the books innit? Said no one ever when Johnson reneges.

People knew what they were voting for. Labour option was also dreadful. We can certainly continue to challenge but it is going to be an uphill struggle and slagging off or patronising the people who felt they had no option but to vote Tory won't work.

So we're thinking he'll faff about all year and then leave without a deal in December 2020? Definitely getting Irish put on my residency card then (Spain).

slagging off or patronising the people who felt they had no option but to vote Tory won't work.

Agreed, but at the same time, any expressions of sympathy will be sung in a very minor key.

From what I see though, the Labour vote did hold up in London - please correct me if I am wrong, and there are still a large number of cities who don't have a single Tory MP. Will they be getting the 'new' hospitals, I wonder?

Hello.
I thought I read yesterday that although Friday's legislation prevents an extension, it doesn't prevent the EU requesting an extension in order to achieve a trade deal.

Does anyone know if this is correct?

People knew what they were voting for

Should that be consequence free then? given the treatment and continued treatment of the poor and vulnerable of this country, 'oh dont worry love you had to vote Tory, yes people are going to die and be made homeless, but thats not your fault you only voted for them'

Will the EU want a trade deal? They might tell us to 'Go f*ck ourselves.^

But, events dear boy, events.

These threads offered a lifeline of sanity in the run up to the election with poster's intelligent foresight and humour.

But now nightmares about the forthcoming defenestration of British democracy by Johnson and co is waking me up in the middle of the night and making me feel ill. As identified by other posters, there is nothing that our new masters won't do to ensure that they retain power and stay in government trampling on the CS, judicary, press, civil liberties, and the economy to do so.

For my sanity's sleep's sake, no more reading the news for me and only the occasional lurk back here but I do wish everyone a healthy and happy Christmas.