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Is No Deal Brexit going to happen anyway?

127 replies

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 17/12/2019 08:10

So Boris has got his blue scarves minions in place.
He’s going to pass a law this week to stop Brexit being delayed beyond 31st January 2020 and the transition period no longer than 31st December 2020

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-boris-johnson-leave-eu-remain-nhs-a9249341.html

So given how little Bojo cares for details. We may well crash out with no deal, as the current government won’t bother negotiating any with the EU.

(The turkeys voted for Christmas. Now here comes the stuffing).

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mummmy2017 · 17/12/2019 15:11

Yes, I voted for it.
Why can't you see that Remain MPs have lost having any input in the Brexit finalized deal by trying to block it.
They gambled and failed, so now have lost their right to vote.

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:15

Love it how some leavers on this thread presume to know what all leavers voted for.

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:18

The reason that Brexit hasn't already happened is because the Tory lgovernment that we've had since 2016managed to screw it up and lose their majority. Not to forget the ERG and Johnson himself.

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:19

I don't think remain mps have lost their right to vote, have they? 🤔

Not yet anyway

Parker231 · 17/12/2019 15:26

@mummmy2017 - I am not entitled to a vote but am a strong supporter of the EU. Regardless of the outcome of the election, are you now supporting a no deal exit for Christmas next year?

tonglong · 17/12/2019 15:26

The MPS who lost there seats have lost there right to vote 😂

mummmy2017 · 17/12/2019 15:27

Oh and losing their jobs means they can still vote.
Please explain.

Songsofexperience · 17/12/2019 15:28

Regardless of what happens in the next couple of years, this is truly the last Christmas of the UK as we know it. Some will cheer- they voted for it. I won't.

mummmy2017 · 17/12/2019 15:30

Parker231
Looking at getting 27 countries to agree was always going to be hard/impossible.
I always thought from day one we would get no deal.

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:32

So what? There are no remain MPs left in parliament?🤔

Songsofexperience · 17/12/2019 15:39

Maybe a tiny handful tobee. The Purge has happened.

Songsofexperience · 17/12/2019 15:40

That is why I will NEVER EVER FORGIVE BLOODY SWINSON.

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:40

Are we talking just about Tory MPs here?

Bluntness100 · 17/12/2019 15:41

Nah, and cant with till this is done so people stop panicking. We won't crash out with no deal and laws can be changed. In days.

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:41

Jo Swinson is directly why I voted Labour.

Songsofexperience · 17/12/2019 15:42

Well, certainly no Tories are remainers. As for Labour, god knows. Libdems are smaller than before and the SNP will just focus on independence.

Songsofexperience · 17/12/2019 15:44

It was so obvious what was going to happen!

My question to Philip Lee at his webchat on MN before the election went unanswered:

One thing that's been bothering me is why willingly give up the only way to prevent the current government from doing whatever it likes and run the risk of gifting them the majority they need? Tactically I didn't understand the about turn regarding a GE before a referendum. In my view the opposition should have sorted itself out first, for however long that took. Why call for a GE when the polls consistently put the Tories in the lead? Now I worry about a Trumpian no deal at the end of next year should they get a 50+ majority.

There you go. Obvious to a random MNetter but not to the opposition parties...

Doubletrouble99 · 17/12/2019 15:45

Continuity - 'the uncomfortable truth still hasn't been grasped'! So you are suggesting I haven't grasped something? I suggest it is remainers that haven't grasped that BJ is putting a time limit in the EU trade negotiations very intentionally to give impetus to proceedings. You all scoffed that he wouldn't be able to change the WA but he did, partly because there was a deadline and no one could be sure if he would let us leave without a deal. That's what he is doing with the trade deal.
Yappity - why on earth do you think Brexiteers will be moaning if theirs no deal, surely most of them want no deal anyway, so I hardly think they are idiots as you say.
Alexa - you seem not to have learnt that Brexit had very little to do with economics, surely you remember the remain campaign focused on that and they lost. Remainers always seem to return to the idea that we were all duped and were idiots. I would suggest you rethink why people actually voted the way they did. Needless to say I don't agree with Planter your generalisations show how little you have learnt in the past 3 and a half years. Perhaps the GE result shows in part that we haven't changed our minds and we still don't think we are idiots.

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:47

The remaining Tories who were remainers (even my MP who had the whip withdrawn as anti no deal) have been reprogrammed successfully and now see the light. Hallelujah!

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:48

"They" let "them" have an election because Corbyn is a fool and is advised by fools the Puritan wanker

DrunkSanta · 17/12/2019 15:48

The English, as usual, have shafted the rest of us. United Kingdom my fat arse. Nothing united about it. Good luck to you all. I'm going to take up smuggling.

CrissmussMockers · 17/12/2019 15:49

The formerly remainer Tories will now concentrate their efforts on keeping their constituents jobs and therefore their own jobs by pushing for the closest possible alignment.

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:49

I don't think remainers need to rethink why they lost. What's the point?

tobee · 17/12/2019 15:51

The Brexit vote had very little to do with economics. Brexit itself does.

The two have been confused.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 17/12/2019 15:52

Brexit was a shit idea in 2016. It is a shit idea now. 2 wrongs don't make a right. There is no vindication here.