Westministenders: Election Special 2

[RedToothBrush]

Exit poll

Con majority of 68.

65 seats regarded technically as still too close to call. But that could mean an even bigger majority.

Blyth Valley has seen a 10% swing to the cons in line with the exit poll. 1st shock of the night

The Tory leader - elected by the Tory party members - is racist and homophobic:

"piccaninnies with watermelon smiles"
"black boys ... scary"
"Muslim women ... letterboxes"
"bum boys"

Say that at work and most places you'd be sacked
Say it to someone in the street and you'd be arrested

But not our PM .....

I am perfectly aware that not everyone who voted for Brexit and the Tories is/was white, BovaryX.

But everyone who did managed to get past the image and the sentiment in that poster and made a conscious choice that the UK they wanted was a UK where that poster is fine with them.

bovary you really don't need to be on this thread, though. You have come on here to prod and provoke and when you do, act (or become) indignant.

FWIW the Asian Labour MP won in my constituency very narrowly but mainly on the grounds that the prospective Tory completely ignored the sizeable Asian, 3rd gen Polish and Italian voting bases. So, it looks like my town is out of step with the zeitgeist

And I most certainly have met some of the voters of whom I speak, BTW.

I eagerly await your answer to my question about the part of the Tory message that resonated with so many former Labour voters.

Please share your analysis.

I guessed correctly regarding a Tory victory but am shocked by the scale of it.

I volunteer to help parents of disabled children and teens with many things ..DLA forms, PIP forms, signposting to various services (nearly all voluntary) etc.

The cuts have been extreme and getting support for children with things like mental health issues is nigh on impossible.

Food bank use is extremely high too.

And yet people have ignored this it seems.

I am depressed today.

I was never a Corbyn fan and didn’t want him as PM so in that I am happy enough. I really didn’t want this scale of Tory victory though as it tells me that most people don’t care at all about the most vulnerable in society....and if that’s now “centre ground” then I feel like crying.

Why is the BBC still interviewing Brexit Party representatives? They are an irrelevance. They have no MPs, and got only 2% of the vote (even worse than the 2017 UKIP vote share). Yet BBC are reporting them on a par with major parties.

My previously safe Labour seat only stayed Labour because the Brexit Party took 3000+ votes off the Tories. Support down over 12%
Our neighbouring even safer Labour seat also held but the vote down 11%.
If that can happen around here ....

Of course not all Tory voters are of a type! I know a few young people who voted for them ; their parents are not old but believe in their policies. A whole demographic of different people voted Tory just as many rich people voted labour.
Labour didn't listen hard enough to their old core voters and Brexit has skewered everything.

Labour abandoned their traditional working class vote and became the party of immigrants, tonight they're paying the price..

The irony of this poster popping up in the middle of this discussion

Wrt poorly educated:

John Burn-Murdoch @jburnmurdoch
K we now have a new leader for strongest correlation, and I think this is narratively significant:

The share of workers in low-skilled jobs was a bigger predictor of swing than either Brexit vote or graduates.

Suggests this was more working class revolt than Brexit election.

Posted by RTB upthread with a handy graph accompanying it.

It's a dog eat dog world now.
Just look out for your own families and do your best. It's all any of us can do.

Labour has one seat in Scotland. One. How is that ever fixable?

And that isn't about Lab deserting the working classes. The SNP are by all accounts more left wing than Labour these days.

My previously safe Tory seat only stayed Tory because the Lib Dem (multi-party defector) split the remain vote.

As I posted upthread, voters also rejected those moderate MPs who left the Labour party because it was too leftwing / Corbyny / anti-semitic

So that doesn't work either

Tell us what it was in the Tory message that helped voters in the north of England to forget Universal Credit and the homeless and the screeching halt to social mobility.

They promised to deliver the democratic decision made in 2016

80s you might need to change your user name now! It is a painful reminder of Thatcherism.
although they were still better

Going by the tories on here Johnsons plan to bring the country together is the first pledge abandoned.

Math,
I find your posts offensive. I find your repeated accusations of racism offensive. Labour lost because it ran against Brexit, because people don’t believe in the command economy paradigm and because it is represented by unpleasant arrogant people who insult voters. Constituencies that have voted Labour for a hundred years have have turned Conservative.You insinuate that’s because those voters are racist. Your posts are offensive

Brilliant night for Irish nationalism. Reunification is now when, not if. Nigel Dodds lost his seat.😂😂😂

They promised to deliver the democratic decision made in 2016

Yes, a decision that was brought about by a campaign of lies on buses and xenophobic posters.

Can I ask, did people who voted Conservative do so primarily because of Brexit ? Was getting Brexit done your main focus when choosing to vote for them ?

Funnily enough, repeatedly posting that you find someone's posts offensive doesn't stop them posting

There has been in a strange trait in british politics since 2016 where the winners play the victim.

I thought this was a thread to discuss the result. I am leaving. Really unpleasant

Actually, it seems just the 'poorly educated' of England and Wales.

Isn't slagging anyone off - it's just a fact that many of the older generations were not offered a better education.