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Westministenders: Election Special 2

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RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 23:33

Exit poll

Con majority of 68.

65 seats regarded technically as still too close to call. But that could mean an even bigger majority.

Blyth Valley has seen a 10% swing to the cons in line with the exit poll. 1st shock of the night

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Hazardexhausted · 13/12/2019 01:59

tabu and mustress he's outrageously english and thinks the Irish and the Scots don't like the English. Tbh i dont quite get it and he's got brain inflammation the result of which just makes him a bit randomly scared of new things. It's more to do with places than people oddly enough.

BigChocFrenzy · 13/12/2019 02:00

And a storming Alliance % increase

  • they took Hermon's voters with them
DeRigueurMortis · 13/12/2019 02:01

Tribe?

I don't associate the friends (who happen to be Jewish) as tribe Hmm

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/12/2019 02:01

pmk

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RedToothBrush · 13/12/2019 02:01

Leigh is Burnhams old seat...

His plan for Greater Manchester was whole sale pinched by Johnson.

Make of that what you will.

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tobee · 13/12/2019 02:02

Well done Putney.

Red but I thought Corbyn was too London? I was just thinking wouldn't Labour prefer someone northern next? Or a bit northern? Born there but moved elsewhere? It doesn't sound possible to suit anyone.

I'm totally south east and London but wouldn't be phased by a northerner or midlander. But maybe that's my southern privilege?

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RedToothBrush · 13/12/2019 02:02

I don't associate the friends (who happen to be Jewish) as tribe

ffs. I meant political tribe. as i mentioned upthread.

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RedToothBrush · 13/12/2019 02:04

Red but I thought Corbyn was too London? I was just thinking wouldn't Labour prefer someone northern next? Or a bit northern? Born there but moved elsewhere? It doesn't sound possible to suit anyone.

tobee, the labour leader is elected by its members. and it will elect in its own image.

the demographics do not favour a northern leader.

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BlackPeonie · 13/12/2019 02:05

Also just to add, this idea that Scottish people don't like the English is a total media thing... Scottish people don't really hate anybody... We're all a barrel of laughs, we like everybody 😂

LurpakIsTheOnlyButter · 13/12/2019 02:06

Does anyone else yell stfu every time Laura speaks on TV? Please tell me I'm not alone

StraightenUpAndFryRight · 13/12/2019 02:06

Saw this on Sky News -
The former Labour MP and mayor of London said the party's leader had paid the price for several aspects of his campaign, including not taking more action on antisemitism.

Bit rich from Ken how-many-more-times-can-I-mention-Hitler Livingstone.

CendrillonSings · 13/12/2019 02:07

(((Dan Hodges)))
@DPJHodges

The Corbynites said to people “why don’t you just fk off and join the Tories”. So they did.

BigChocFrenzy · 13/12/2019 02:07

Electoral Calculus decided left-right no longer worked sufficiently, so they developed the classification of voters into 7 political "tribes"

Many political analysts now refer to these tribes

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/pol3d_main.html

Westministenders: Election Special 2
tabulahrasa · 13/12/2019 02:08

“I'm not Jewish but have a number of friends who are and they they have really struggled wrt their vote.”

If people didn’t want to vote labour because of anti-semitism... they’d not be voting Tory... that’s like voting BNP because you think the Brexit party is racist.

tobee · 13/12/2019 02:09

Ok thanks Red. Hadn't really taken on board the members being so London as it were. I just think of Len Mc making all the decisions.

BigChocFrenzy · 13/12/2019 02:09

As a centrist, I have the boring "average" in each field
< wails - where is the excitement ? >

Hazardexhausted · 13/12/2019 02:12

Oh I should also point out DP thinks English people hate him but he has reasons for that as evidenced by tonight's results. He says he feels betrayed and like the country doesn't care so why would anyone else?

It's very sad what we do to disabled people and the psychological effects that has. It's not just the injustice that you see it's the hurt that they then carry.

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RedToothBrush · 13/12/2019 02:12

i think its now a significant problem for Labour.

This election has been a problem for Labour because of the echo chamber that centres on London and metropolitan centres.

Voices from northern towns haven't been able to cut through that. I don't see what is going to change that come tomorrow.

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Piggywaspushed · 13/12/2019 02:14

PMK. Can't sleep. Full day of teaching later. Humbug.

Apileofballyhoo · 13/12/2019 02:15

If people didn’t want to vote labour because of anti-semitism... they’d not be voting Tory...

So one would think.

BlackPeonie · 13/12/2019 02:17

Silent majority strikes again.

Always beware of echo chambers.

We learned the hard way in Scotland in 2014 😩

Apileofballyhoo · 13/12/2019 02:17

What do northern towns want to say?

wherearemychickens · 13/12/2019 02:19

We don't want jobs, or a functioning NHS, or truthful politicians?

wherearemychickens · 13/12/2019 02:20

And, we told you once, we're telling you again.

SirChing · 13/12/2019 02:20

How pathetic has someone got to be, to get their own way politically, and STILL feel the need to come and gloat. Particularly on a thread where people are expressing real fears regarding cuts in services.

It is narcissism, staggering lack of self awareness, a pathetic need to self-validate or just plain nastiness? Who knows. I do pity them, whatever their motivation.

They are so very much proving the point that voting Tory is no marker of class these days. Certainly not of having any class, at least.