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Brexit Arms: Election Night Lock-In

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GreenishMe · 12/12/2019 13:29

Welcome to the Brexit Arms - it's going to be a stormy old night! We're about to be buffeted from right to left and back again with no real idea what the landscape will finally look like in the morning. All are welcome to weather the storm in the warmth and safety of the Arms - but please remember this a hospitable establishment so let's try and keep it that way.

We're kicking off the evening with our Back to the 70's theme night while we wait for the big main event to unfold. The juke box is loaded with all your 70's favourites. Feel free to dance round your handbags but please, no dancing on the tables…. this could be seen as having too much fun.

As always, we've got a nice big pot of PG Tips on the brew and Camp coffee by the mugfuls in addition to our usual alcoholic beverages.

On a serious note, we know that tonight's events are going to cause some upsets. With this in mind, the mint imperial bowls on the bar have been filled with Diocalms and we urge all our customers to make use of these. There should be enough to go round as long as nobody starts trying to stockpile. We simply cannot risk the need for plumbers to unblock our loos on Friday morning, as they could have been called out on strike by then.

Landladies on duty tonight will be:

20:00-22:00 Greenish (with Babychams, Cherry B's and vol au vents)
2200-midnight Twattage (with Classic Dmitris and cheeseboard)
Midnight-0200 Singing (with stiff brandies to calm the nerves, plus a selection of fresh nuts)
0200-0400 Hate (possibly with Albanian delicacies and a hangover cure)

We'd like to get the glitter ball turning with this absolute classic:

….fingers crossed similar scenes will abound in the Arms by the end of tonight. Enjoy!

P.s. When ordering drinks between 8pm and 10pm please supply your own drinks emojis. Thankyou!

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BovaryX · 13/12/2019 10:25

This video summarises most Labour voters approach to discussing politics. Shout over everyone and then be surprised when in the privacy of the ballot box people vote the opposite way

The level of abuse is an indictment of this faction. The Labour Party has an imperious attitude to voters for whom they have visceral contempt. The magnitude of Labour’s loss is indicative of the magnitude of Labour’s arrogance and unpopularity beyond the Watford beltway.

The80sweregreat · 13/12/2019 10:29

A new centre left party would do well.
It's finding the right leader and the right policies.

mummmy2017 · 13/12/2019 10:35

Labour already has a base, better and quicker to change the leader and the way the party is headed, than to splinter and the new party to come to nothing

DustyDiamond · 13/12/2019 10:42

We might even have some positive news on the business coming today, so keep your fingers crossed! It would make my day truly amazing to be able to settle that gripping fear too.

🙌🙌😍

DustyDiamond · 13/12/2019 10:44

*:)

DustyDiamond · 13/12/2019 10:45

Love the Fire Brexit door Lily! 😂

DustyDiamond · 13/12/2019 10:49

😮 that vid Holly

They've lost the plot 😱

wonkylegs · 13/12/2019 11:12

@SingingLily it's not superiority it's from actually talking to people. People I know, love and care about. I live in a strong leave area and I completely get and share people's frustrations and concerns with Government, locally, nationally and European but so so many people here in my village (don't know or claim to speak for anywhere else) have said this week that they will be glad when Brexit is done and over in January.
I have no illusions that many people did know the complexity and support the ideas of the Brexit vote however I have personal experience of many who believe that it's a very simple process that will happen overnight. I'm not saying they are thick, I'm saying they are hopeful and trusting in a group of people (MPs) who are supposed to represent us fairly and responsibly and have taken them at face value when they have said it will 'be done'
At the moment I'm not sure MPs have earned that trust with their actions (across all parties) and I worry that they will continue to disappoint us.
I am personally frustrated by the whole process and the way it's tied our country in knots, the way it has divided and pitted people against one another.
I find no joy in this, and I find the glee / anger being thrown about rather sad. I think it's been a miserable few years in politics of all colours and I don't believe last nights result will change that, I think it will probably give some temporary stability and some movement forward but I am not convinced it will last.

MeganBacon · 13/12/2019 11:14

Loving all the artwork Smile
Just wanted to say a huge thank you to Dusty, Epic, Singing and many other regulars for staying so measured and good humoured in spite of so much goady nastiness over the past months. Well done all for keeping the Arms a friendly place where different views can be expressed. We need more of that. The echo chambers of momentum and some threads not far from here were always going to implode because democracy is bigger and better, but it felt hard to remember that sometimes.

The80sweregreat · 13/12/2019 11:15

Wonky, good post!

mummmy2017 · 13/12/2019 11:32

Listening to ITV.
Dialing down the hate speak.
Doubling down on their position and failing to move on the views of majority.
Voting while holding noses, and quivering as they voted.
The media really do hate the result.

AutumnRose1 · 13/12/2019 11:37

I got here about 3 weeks ago? I want to thank everyone again. I can't believe you've been dealing with this shit for 3 years!

BelleHathor · 13/12/2019 11:42

Morning Comrades! What a night 🙌🙏🙌🎆 ! Mr Heineken did it , he reached the places others couldn't 😂😂 and a shout out to Dmitri too, the war gaming and plotting every potential move led to one of the best 4D chess games ever. It seems like all of the other parties were playing checkers lol 😂😂

SingingLily · 13/12/2019 11:55

There are some who understand it's a complex process

After being challenged:

many people did know the complexity

I'm glad you've seen the light, Wonkylegs.

Now perhaps we can all move on.

SingingLily · 13/12/2019 11:58

Epic, in all the brouhaha, I read but didn't entirely register that you might have some positive news today.

With every fibre of my being, I hope this happens. 🤞🙏💙

Hollycatberry · 13/12/2019 12:03

There was just a segment on the BBC election coverage with Victoria Derbyshire and three voters. Two had voted conservative, one labour.
The labour voter was a young woman who rolled her eyes when the lifelong male labour voter from West Bro, said he voted Tory for the first time because of brexit. Said she was astounded anyone could vote Tory because of the NHS and voters “need to look at themselves and what they have voted for”. They never learn how patronising and demeaning they are.
The other conservative voter was a leave voter who had worked in the NHS as a consultant but was now retired for reference.

Hollycatberry · 13/12/2019 12:03

I meant West Bromwich* in my post above btw!

Saucery · 13/12/2019 12:08

It beggars belief that Rebecca Long Bailey is being seriously touted as a possible Labour leader. Because she is Northern.
How much more out of touch can they get ffs? A bad Victoria Wood pastiche act is not going to appeal the Northern voters.

SingingLily · 13/12/2019 12:15

That segment from Piers Morgan had us rolling laughing.

Kevin Maguire looks as though he's been slapped in the face 364 times with a wet fish (WinkWalking)

Tory Boy Pierce is basking in the moment.

Shouty young Labour activist is permanently stuck on "Transmit" (no "Receive" setting)

Piers Morgan trying to pour oil on troubled waters. Even Ayesha Hazarika, staunch Labour herself, gets what happened, but still Shouty Young Activist bellows from her bubble.

I would like to believe that the Labour Party will rebuild as a decent centre-left party - it's in no ones interests, regardless of political persuasion, to have an Official Opposition incapable of holding government to account because it's ineptitude is greater than the government's ineptitude - but the fact is, the machinery of the Labour Party has been captured by Momentum.

Momentum has done exactly the same thing to the Labour Party as the former rotten HoC did to democracy; claim they acted only to defend and preserve it, when in fact they strained every sinew to hollow it out from the inside and render it meaningless.

SingingLily · 13/12/2019 12:17

It beggars belief that Rebecca Long Bailey is being seriously touted as a possible Labour leader. Because she is Northern.
How much more out of touch can they get ffs?

That would give the Conservatives ten more years in power, not just five.

Hollycatberry · 13/12/2019 12:19

“Shouty young Labour activist is permanently stuck on Transmit”

Her name is Grace Berkeley I think. See Ash Sarkar and Owen Jones for similar shouting, sneering, blaming type behaviour. They can’t see they are part of the problem.

AutumnRose1 · 13/12/2019 12:24

I can't face watching this already notorious clip as I have a headache!

It's funny how things turn out. I liked Jeremy Corbyn at the start of all this. I would have expected to vote Labour. I spent bloody ages trying to oppose Johnson's Garden Bridge - with some success although the money spent still makes my eyes bleed.

and yet, here we are Confused

SingingLily · 13/12/2019 12:25

They can’t see they are part of the problem.

That's the truth, Holly. If the Labour Party is ever going to reform successfully, it's going to have to find a way to leave those people behind.

If, however, it is as seriously compromised as I fear it is, the Party is going to have to divorce itself, and start from scratch.

Hollycatberry · 13/12/2019 12:39

lily I agree entirely. But these activists seem to have ‘become’ labour now and they are going to be hard to shake off. All I’ve seen from these types so far is denial and blame of the true issues. I think a split might be needed.... but whose got the guts to do it? Or someone go for leadership and kick momentum out, if that’s even possible now.

SingingLily · 13/12/2019 12:45

It can be done, Holly. Joe Haines wrote the blueprint some time ago. They need a strong group of Labour MPs and decent activists (there are some, still) who would agree to coalesce around an interim leader to fight the battle. It would be hard and it would be bloody, but they would retain the legal right to the Labour Party name, brand, assets, Commons money and offices. They just need to maintain iron discipline and total public unity in the face of the vitriol.

Ironically, they would get the same vitriol the rest of us have had to suffer for years, only tripled.