Westminstenders: The Undecideds

[RedToothBrush]

Apparently the pollsters are nervous.

There are far more undecided than there have been at this stage in recent general election.

This makes it a hugely fine line between a hung parliament and a massive tory majority.

The weather on Thursday isn't expected to be nice and this could affect turnout. The blue corner are particularly nervous about this, but don't forget those postal votes.

Whatever happens on Thursday at least this election campaign is nearly over. And that can't be a bad thing.

And Christmas is in a fortnight so we can all drown our sorrows or celebrate in style.

You always have time to restock the drinks if you end up resort to them on Thursday

(New election special thread on Thursday rather than bunging up Westminstenders BTW)

Honeysuckle they will love that :) just give it to them on the way out rather than the way in. I've had cakes dropped off before. Much appreciated!

Keep warm cat! X

Tory MPs said before electing BJ
"the one thing you can be sure of about Boris is that he will always let you down"
... then elected him to the final runoff

I wonder if Scottish Unionists will learn this, as NI Unionists have:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/12/northern-ireland-offers-warning-few-are-hearing/603196/

Particular hatred was reserved for the hard-line Brexiteer caucus within the Conservative Party, which had formed a tight alliance with the DUP against Theresa May’s earlier Brexit deal,
which also treated Northern Ireland differently from the rest of the country.

At the last minute, however, these Tory hard-liners broke off their alliance with the DUP to back Johnson’s deal.

The sense of betrayal was felt acutely by all those I spoke with in Belfast and Fermanagh.
....
“It’s like the mother who hammers her kids all the time^^
....She beats them, all that, but at the end of the day, the kids still love her.”

You too, OhYouBadBadKitten.

And thanks, I'll try, StinkyEddie.

Of course, if the Tories win, then any funny business getting them there will be forgiven. By them. In power and simply: retrospectively - making it all legal.

Wrap up warmly, cat as you are still recovering from flu
and I suggest a thermos of hot soup

We don’t know yet whether the Conservatives need activists. This is a very strange election. Lots of very unusual seats, lots of independents, divided loyalties, tactical votings, and lots of younger voters. I remember that the prediction of a hung parliament was a shock to me in 2017.I had felt very gloomy then. I’m almost tempted to put a tenner on at the bookies for @ hung parliament. I will be really sorry if people in poor areas turn their backs on the Labour Party. And even if the Conservatives win, and win big, some of their big hitters will go, and that’s good.

Just coming on to say how amazing you are Squid, the NHS is held together by people like you and I so wish it was easier for you all.
Not sure if it will make a difference, however my family all live in a town that has been a conservative hold since 2005, in 2017 the labour candidate gained almost 10% of the vote. This time round, my sister, who has never voted because what's the point, is heading out to the polling station first thing to cast her first vote for labour - the mrp indicates that this constituency could flip from blue to red. She has engaged in politics, has read up on the policies, and is casting a vote - from someone who has never voted, this is a massive shift and it's one I've seen in a few people.
It may not ultimately make a difference, but I hope beyond hope that this is not the slam dunk the Tories believe it will be.
It's time we had some hope, and people may well choose it when they make their mark in the box. I'm keeping everything crossed.

Thanks for replying Cat. I'll show them my card so they know I've voted (they know I'm in the red column already).

Our blue candidate seems to have given up judging by social media. Mad really because on paper it is very, very close.

Ds1 (a level politics student) and I are staying up.

I have been instructed to but snacks :)

I will be really sorry if people in poor areas turn their backs on the Labour Party But that's what happened in Scotland but poor people in England don't have the SNP to turn to.

BJ hiding to the end...

Jeremy Vinee@theJeremyVine*

Boris Johnson has refused to follow the other six leaders who have taken part in the leader interviews @BBCRadio2

His staff constantly told my producers - until this morning - that he was "very likely" to come on.

Today we were told he couldn't, and no reason was given.

I don't think I can bear to watch. I'll just check on here for updates, have nightmares and/or lie awake for hours then cry into my cup of tea on Friday morning.

Have been lurking since 2016. I live abroad and am not eligible to vote tomorrow.

My life has been turned upside down since the Brexit Ref and our family’s future is still in limbo. BUT it is nothing compared to those suffering from hunger due to austerity or those trying to receive or give medical care in a collapsing NHS.

I so wish tomorrow turns out to be the start of a better life for those people under a non Tory government. But I fear not and fear things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get better.

The whole thing is a bloody mess.

But tonight I wanted to jump on and let you know how very much I appreciate everything the regular posters have done here over the years.

To those of you out campaigning and or raising awareness here thank you.

Your intelligence, compassion and dignity when faced with certain negative posters has been an inspiration and a beacon of hope and light in many dark hours.

Thank you to you all.

The fight does not end tomorrow - the good and the brave will one day succeed. We have to hang onto that hope.

fridge

I have been comfort eating all month , and never drink in the week. Tonight , I have Twiglets and Sloe Gin.

Fridge what a lovely and wise thing to say.

It's going to be a long night tomorrow for those at the count and for those watching at home. Some of you will be at the polling station first thing or doing good morning leaflets. Campaigning is over now. Tomorrow it's just about getting the vote out.

Apprentice is on now - it's the interviews episode. Try and chill and get an early night. Whatever happens tomorrow, the sun will still come up, robins will be hopping around in the trees and for those who celebrate Christmas is just around the corner.

Just to remind everybody
No matter what the outcome tomorrow
I'll lay down a fiver that we have another GE before the end of 2020

badbad
iplayer is your friend
(I'll agree to disagree with DGR about the TV licence / LK issue)
a good session of DAvid Attenborough / Keith Floyd / multiple other distractions are worth is

Boris , on the other hand , would lure your DH outside and then go in your house and shut the door.

He'd sell you a shiny new door - to Narnia. 🦄

Derxa, if Nicola Sturgeon stood in my English constituency, I would definitely vote for her. My other hope is that if conservatives are representing constituencies where 1 in 4 children are visibly living in poverty, where drugs are devastating whole neighbourhoods and where the squeeze on local authorities has visibly damaged the fabric and the the heart of the community. Maybe they will start to take notice. Voters in these towns are going to bring their issues to surgeries, and a response will be necessary.

💐@fridge
💐@kitten
💐@bigchoc

The prime minister, who is one of the most brilliant men to enter Downing Street,

His 'brilliance' must be a matter of opinion - a man who despite having an easy passage to Oxford via his expensive Eton education, got a 2:2, which when I got my first degree in the early seventies, was what most students got. Not what any of us would call 'brilliant'. The 'brilliant' ones were those who pulled off firsts with high percentages and then went on to Masters and PhDs, in which they excelled.

..

Yes fridge

This thread has been a source of wisdom, humour and comfort in truly awful times.