The Brexit Arms - Counting Down the Days...

[SingingLily]

Welcome to the Brexit Arms!

We are temporarily under new management but worry not, the ship is still steady as we sail on to 12 December. A quick recap of the events of the last week or two:

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Anyone of any political persuasion who is prepared to join in, eschew goadery, and enjoy a laugh, welcome. First drinks are on the house.

ABC, we can grow tea in Cornwall, but cocoa beans have not been a success even in the hottest summers. Maybe we should leave them to tropical countries, and just pay properly for quality beans, instead of cr*p Cadburys?

Just caught up and read Dusty's post about the C4 'climate debate'.

Am I the ONLY one to be disgusted at C4s behaviour?
WTF right do they to deny the largest political party representation in this? surly it breaks electoral law?

So apparently it was, 3% Nicola Sturgeon who is not even standing to be an MP or leading a UK wide party.
31% Jeremy Corbyn.
14% Jo Swinson.
2% Sian Berry.
0% Adam Price who is not even in a UK wide party.

What legal right do C4 have to deny the 42% largest party in the UK representation?

FYI, I bet it was boring as hell and only a few thousand people watched it. Anyone?

I was surprised to see an EU flag flying in my NDNs garden XIng (might have to cut their ropes), and lots of LIb Dem placards in the village. Had stuff from the Lib Dems and the Greens...might have had something from Labour, but used it to light the woodburner! The rest of it went in the recycling.

No canvassers out in Tavistock today either that I saw, but it has been wet (again). I think it's rained every day since I came home.

Mebyon Kernow - really?

Epic Dream team, JRM, Jonny Mercer, Penny Mordaunt, Steve Baker, Mark Francois, Saj,
From the past, Mrs T, Norman Tebbit, Nigel Lawson, Tom King, Lord Carrington, Malcolm Rifkind, Kenneth Baker

I could just see Mrs T thwacking Barnier and Jean Claude with her handbag, and treading Sabine Weyand into the dust under her heels. She's have eaten Verhofstadt for breakfast and spat him out again.

Saffron buns? Never tried them but my immediate response is like Miranda Hart saying "Savoury muffins?!" in a tone of horror.

oh no, someone's going to mention cheese scones.

I didn't watch the climate debate. I am worried about overpopulation and no one ever seems to want to talk about that, I bet it didn't get much of a mention if at all.....

Cheese scones from the farmer's market in Tavistock are lush, as are the ones from the bread man who sets up his stall each day. His ronde suisse (pain au raisin for the francophones) are very good as well.

I am also rediscovering oggies (pasties), especially the cheese and onion ones. I have eaten more pastry since being back than I did in 13 years away.

I'm flagging Scary. It was an early start today, so declaring for the sons of Cornwall on 12/12 could be a premature over-statement, unless the urge for damage limitation gets worse.

I think you may be more of a Leave purist than me but I was dithering until 11:59 in 2016 so have never been a hardliner.

"but I was dithering until 11:59 in 2016"

11:59 on the day or the day before? I was dithering till 12.30pm on the day. I walked in to the booth, walked back out...phoned my mum!

then eventually went in again.

Xing 13 years around the bazaars in Brussels with some very close proximity to europhiles is enough to make anyone a Leave purist! The EU is like a religion to many of them.

WTF right do they to deny the largest political party representation in this? surly it breaks electoral law?

So it's Channel 4's fault that Bozo was too chicken to turn up? And sent his Dad instead. Yes of course.

The EU is like a religion to many of them.
As leaving is to others - no thinking required, just believe and when Brexit goes wrong it's your fault for not believing hard enough.

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So it's Channel 4's fault that Bozo was too chicken to turn up? And sent his Dad instead
What legal right do C4 have to dictate which representative represents a party? We dont like in a dictatorship or have presidents.

FYI, C4 where the ones that invited Mr Johnston Senior.

Its perfectly reasonably for the effective deputy PM to represent the largest party, C4 have been very bias.

Why would they invite his daddy then not let him in? Why did Johnson say he would be there then not turn up, the fat fritter? Do you really need to be such a sitting duck for any crap the tories put out? Are you incapable of thinking for yourself?

Why would they invite his daddy then not let him in?
Ummmmmmmmmmm Publicity stunt? I think C4 will be in trouble over this disregard for legalities.
There is zero legal reason why C4 can refuse the Conservative party to take part.

Wow Arse, welcome back, it’s been too long. Why not just say what you really feel?

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arse The EU is like a religion to many of them.
As leaving is to others - no thinking required, just believe and when Brexit goes wrong it's your fault for not believing hard enough.

Not really. I thought long and hard about voting to leave, despite having been eurosceptic since Maastricht was signed and then Black Wednesday. Having been out in Brussels for the last 13 years, with dh seconded to the EU for 3 years of that, you can almost can see the Brussels bubble that surrounds those who work at Berlaymont. It is considered heresy to object to the EU.

I can quite see why some voted to remain..but I don't think there was a status quo whether we stayed or left. Either way, huge changes are coming, and I think the UK is best equipped to deal with those from outside the bloc.

I also gave it much thought, Scaryteacher, and read widely - including Le Monde and Le Figaro - before voting but in the end, decided that self-determination was the only thing that really mattered to me. I regret that we didn't leave before John Major steamrollered us into signing up to Maastricht but going back in time wasn't an option. We need to leave sharpish before the eurozone implodes in the capable hands of Christine Lagarde, followed by the implosion of the EU as Ursula VdL seeks heroically to deal with the wreckage (but as is her wont, manages to make it even worse).

For those unfamiliar with Le Monde, think "the Guardian, but without all the humour".

Ah, Arse, nice to see you, chuck. Your usual stool awaits at the far end of the bar.

Fruit Loop, anyone?

Morning all

Just swishing in & out to catch up with the thread before I have to go out

I was deeply disappointed that Alan Johnson didn't win the Labour leadership

I am a huge fan of his Xing! Also would have been pleased if Andy Burnham had won the leadership contest back in 2015

So it's Channel 4's fault that Bozo was too chicken to turn up? And sent his Dad instead. Yes of course.

Now that's just not true, is it pumpkin?!

The Party sent a representative in place of BJ (as is their right); said rep was Michael Gove

But don't let the truth get in the way of a good rumour obvs 🤷🏻‍♀️

Morning, Dusty,

If Alan Johnson had been leader, we wouldn't be staring at a dystopian future now. Momentum wouldn't exist except in the hearts of a few lonely figures flogging their fringe newspapers on windy street corners.

Hope the new job is still going well. And it's Friday!

Thanks Lily 😍

I'm EXHAUSTED!!!

Getting up again every day is taking some getting used to 😩😩

Just seen this of Michael Gove from last night

www.thesun.co.uk/news/10445381/channel-4-ice-sculpture-boris-johnson/

From the article which the video footage is on:

"The broadcaster insisted it was only for leaders, and revealed Mr Corbyn and others threatened to walk out if Mr Gove was allowed to take part."

Morning all, morning dusty . Our new Tory candidate is outside the tube stations well before 7 greeting the commuters so just had my second chat with him. My postal vote with x against his name is already done.
Channel 4 was wrong to turn Gove away. What matters in a leader as much as anything is how well they choose and direct the people working for them and the quality of those people. That will prove to be Boris’s strength. Gove is a huge asset to the government.
Happy to see scary and lily talking about the Eu in this debate- there has been such a sanitised view from inside the Eu presented on these boards.

Obviously no-one wants to debate with Gove live on tv. Specially not Corbs who was absolutely annihilated by him a few months back in one of the best parliamentary speeches ever, he was on 🔥

This election is only about Brexit. It's not about the NHS. Or care services. Or education. It's only about Brexit.
I lost. I can't change people's minds.
And I'm already thinking about a Friday glass of wine.

Morning, All! Morning, Megan and Bellini,

It may be chilly and cloudy outside but here in the Brexit Arms, the fire is lit and we're open for business.

The customary breakfast tray is on the bar: tea, coffee, bacon rolls, fried egg barms, and our new speciality, sautéed mixed mushrooms on lightly grilled sourdough with a soupçon of garlic and thyme. All on the house, so please help yourselves. Or, as they used to say round our way - dig in, you're at your grannie's.

It was having an impassioned rant about my Euroscepticism on another thread (no, not The Other Thread) that led me here, Megan. Dusty and Epic weighed in with me against some frankly blinkered Remainers with deeply held stereotypes about us thick, racist, xenophobic knuckledraggers. Oh, and those with "NHS faces", whatever that means. Anyway, Epic promised me a free drink et voilà! Me voici.

I'm not convinced it's just about Brexit, Bellini.

I'm off to the brewery shortly to peck some heads about the proposal to hike up the rent if Jezbollah gets in, but let's start the day on a cheery note. This is from Paul Waugh, Huffington Post:

"Yet maybe the anger in northern seats about Jeremy Corbyn (and canvassers are reporting they say unprintable things about him) is not just because Labour is seen as blocking Brexit. It’s because they don’t like Corbyn himself, many candidates say. Lord Ashcroft’s polls suggest the ‘Corbyn’ factor, plus a belief that Labour spend too much and get the UK into too much debt, are bigger factors than Brexit."

Northerners. Salt of the earth.