Westminstenders: From Uxbridge to...? Part deux GE 2019 special.

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New thread.

General election 12th December 2019. Results out on Friday 13th. Unlucky day for some.

So this election is unusual in that it will focus primarily on Brexit and referendums with domestic issues tagged alongside, for some parties.

Thank you Misti

Michael Gove urged to apologise for sharing antisemitic tweet falsely attributed to Labour member

The 'error' appears to have been made by the chief executive of the Holocaust Education Trust who tweeted; "Acc to a Labour activist with the usual hashtag,“

I couldn't help noticing that the Independent refer to the chief executive as 'Mr Pollock' when she is clearly a woman as her name is 'Karen' - the Independent should apologise themselves.

or does the wheels look like theyre falling off the Tory £350,000,000 bus?

The wheels have been falling off for months, but enough of the electorate haven't woken up to this, and are still urging 'faster, faster'.

What does No Trade Deal mean? How is it different from No Deal?

No deal before the withdrawal agreement is confirmed means just that - no deal over anything at all. That means a hard border in Ireland and no framework for citizens' rights, as well as no trade agreement with the EU.

Once the WA is implemented, Ireland will be protected via the "frontstop" and citizens' rights will also have some protection. Those protections will continue for the foreseeable future regardless of whether there is a trade deal or nor.

If at the end of the transition in December 2020 there is no free trade deal ready to go, the GB (not NI) becomes a third country with no preferential trade agreements. It's not "no deal" but in practice it creates many of the same problems, especially as some of the measures that were put in place by the EU to mitigate no deal (eg on EU access for U.K. commercial vehicles, and on flights) will have expired by then.

Thanks ClashCityRocker

Seen elsewhere ...

www.stopmogg.net

My quite well-known in certain circles sister lives in the mewling pencil's constituency. Safe to say that she won't be voting for him

I've not been closely following this thread as seemed to go off piste but decided to have a look at the local election results for my area this year. I'm in Hazel Grove constituency and have sycophant Wragg as our MP. Having looked at the local election and by elections for this year and the European elections the LDs had the lead with the BXP coming a close second. The North West as a whole had a scary amount of BXP voters. Whilst this horrifies me it meant the Tory vote was significantly less than it normally would have been. This gives me hope that the LDs will get back in at the GE this year. Locally we have good councillors. Wragg is a waste of space and not liked here at all. He had a majority of 5000 in 2007 with 70% turn out. It would be great if we went back to LD but i don't know how likely that is. They campaign hard here and are liked on a personal level/community level. I'd love to see the smug smile wiped off wragg's face.

In heavily Remain Norwich, Chloe Smith’s recent flyers don’t even have ANY Conservative branding on them! No clue as to the party she represents- almost like she thinks they’ll be unpopular here

Re Norwich North, according to wiki, Chloe Smith's majority was 507 in 2017 so very much a marginal.

The seat was always traditionally Labour but had boundary changes making it more conservative, then was held by Ian Gibson for Labour for 12 years til 2010 when he resigned and it went Con.

As per the quote, Norwich is very remainy and Norwich South is historically usually Labour, although did fall to Lib Dem's in 2010, but is now Clive Lewis' seat.

Twill be very interesting to see how Norwich North votes. Interesting for Norfolk generally as it's a very blue county. Norman Lamb is standing down in North Norfolk so whether that will also turn blue

So Gove's head of the 'Labour anti-semitism' election task force? Wonder who's head of 'Tory Islamophobia denial' now they've also been referred to the EHRC?

Has anyone posted this yet?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/05/government-pushes-ahead-plans-festival-of-brexit

The thought of it makes me feel sick.

First crack in the dam ?

www.expressandstar.com/news/politics/general-election-2019/2019/11/04/brexit-party-candidate-quits-to-back-tory-mp-for-re-election/

A Brexit Party candidate has announced he has quit the party to endorse the Conservatives in a key Black Country seat at the general election

Paul Brothwood is backing Tory MP Mike Wood in Dudley South, saying he fears votes for Nigel Farage’s party could help elect a Labour-Lib Dem government that would stop Brexit.

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The cynic in me suggests he quit when he realised who was expected to pay the deposit and campaign expenses.

A Brexit Party candidate has announced he has quit the party to endorse the Conservatives in a key Black Country seat at the general election

'Into the valley rode the 599'..nah, doesn't work

considering the calibre and profound local connections of all the other BXP candidates - I imagine Nige will be able to take someone else's money scrape up another candidate for the seat before the deadline.

May have been posted already but I didn't know until I just received the following Thank you for your purchase, Royal Mail have now stated that anything dispatched after 15-12-2015 is NOT guaranteed to arrive before Christmas now

Interestingly I heard that story on the local BBC radio news, but looking for sign of it on the local BBC site ... nada.

considering the calibre and profound local connections of all the other BXP candidates - I imagine Nige will be able to take someone else's money scrape up another candidate for the seat before the deadline.

Oh undoubtedly. But that doesn't change the fact that one BXP member has voiced what the Tories are claiming ...

I really want BXP to do well. I want them to astound the country with the number of votes they poll. Which sadly won't translate into the Kingmaking seats Farage is betting on (and he's already made his excuses anyway). Because the better BXP do, the worse the Tories will do. And if a few Labour seats do fall, it would be to the LibDems anyway.

I am a strong believer in karma and I really hope it's coming back to bite the Tories on the arse in this election. However, until the votes are in, it's all froth.

Oh no I see Gina Miller’s RemainUnited is launching their tactical voting advice on 10 November. Great, but what if like the Euro elections, different sites give different advice on who to vote for? Negates the whole thing.

I hope they’re talking to Best for Britain.

www.remainunited.org/

I am a strong believer in karma and I really hope it's coming back to bite the Tories on the arse in this election.

If only Karma were like that (straying into a misspent Buddhist youth ).

That said, it's hard not to find a little joy in the thought of a Tory party failing to get a majority, and being told by all the other parties it might have got the numbers for a coalition with to "go fuck yourselves".

If (some) former LibDem voters could grow up, it's a very real possibility.

but what if like the Euro elections, different sites give different advice on who to vote for?

Speaking of which, how much compensation did the people unlawfully denied their vote in the EU elections get ? I guess it slipped the news with so much going on.

Bercows, I think (could be wrong on this) that Hazel Grove will be targeted heavily by the LDS. I think there's just over half a dozen constituencies they will look at in the NW.

There's a historic LD presence, it was 51% Leave, and LDs had a good showing there in 2017. The LDs are organised in Stockport area and I know they were running a proper campaign office last election which is a rarity (most places LD HQ is someone's spare bedroom or shed). So its going to get a lot more attention than most places.

Looking at the numbers the crucial thing will be whether the Brexit Party stand in the constituency or not. If they do, that will work in the LDs favour IMO.

DGR what I've seen is the Tory party (and Brexit Party) line is that there is no electoral pact between the parties, however there are deals being done on a local level between the parties against the official policy.

So it wouldn't surprise me if there were quite a lot more Brexit Party candidates who stand down (especially when it becomes apparent how much money they need to put in for their campaign).

So it wouldn't surprise me if there were quite a lot more Brexit Party candidates who stand down (especially when it becomes apparent how much money they need to put in for their campaign).

At what point would that erode Farages "right" to appear on our screens every 5 minutes ?

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