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[Epicwaffle]

Apparently the usual landlady over ordered on Bar nuts on the last thread. Just step over them if you find them here, as we haven’t had a chance to clear them up yet.

Welcome to all friendly parties!

First drinks are free!

Phillip Hammond not standing in Election! 🍸👏👏👏

What? Not standing as a lonely Independent in don't-bother-counting-the-Tory-vote-just-weigh-it Runnymede and Weybridge? Even though the EU Referendum result was a knife's edge 50.15% Remain/49.85% Leave?

Has the man no sense of adventure? No derring-do? I'm disappointed.

OK, I'm not really

Great news Belle

Fabulous news. Not a lot of sympathy for him on Twitter, lot of "Yay! The swamps finally draining" and I can't say I disagree couldn't have happened to a nicer fella 🤣🤣🤣

Has the man no sense of adventure? No derring-do? I'm disappointed.

😂😂😂😂

Also not at all gutted that he's not standing...! 🥳 🎉 🍾

The swamp does indeed seem to draining at a rate of knots 🙌

My mum used to see Hammond a wee bit when he defence sec & she hated him.
She didn't actually have to deal with him or anything but used to see him in the corridor occasionally - she said he's creepy & gave her the heebie-jeebies.

Can't believe the extent of voter fraud described in that article Limer! I didn't realise it was so bad!

That Election Fraud article is staggering.

Some of the stuff going off in Lincoln is mindblowing. I actually feel sick at the complete ‘fuck you’ to democracy. Not for the first time these past years. Surely a crackdown on this is long overdue??? The courts should not just fine, it should carry a minimum 6 months in prison and definitely kicked off their degree if the votes are stolen (as alleged here) from halls by other students.

We need to make an example of people caught doing this, young people or not. How dare they steal other People’s votes???

And Philip Hammond? No loss at all!

I'll miss his cheery upbeat manner, Epic. As will we all.

Epic completely agree. We don't really need Russia to interfere when the whole voting system is so easily manipulated. The BXP party called foul on the recent Peterborough by-election where there were an unusually high number of postal votes. How widespread must fraud be if that girl can broadcast her intentions on Twitter with no fucks given? I am sure people like her would say it's not a design fault with the system it's a feature !

I'm sure they see it as a 'victimless crime' though

At least her dad said he'd have a word with her!!

I also keep quiet about my vote.
However even if I voted I would do this because I'm surrounded by Remainers and they assume everyone good voted like them.

So where normal conversations start on an even basis between most adults. The ref conversation starts ' oh bloody brexit, it's dire, my pils are leavers, thick knuckle dragging gammon obsessed with the dm.' '

I almost get a perverse pleasure from the keeping quiet 😕😁.

Even if I voted remain, the rebel would not declare

“So where normal conversations start on an even basis between most adults. The ref conversation starts ' oh bloody brexit, it's dire, my pils are leavers, thick knuckle dragging gammon obsessed with the dm.' '”

Perfect grounding for a successful and cogent debate, no?

"Labour has insisted it can “get Brexit sorted within six months”, arguing a deal based on a customs union and “a close single market relationship” can be struck within three months.

Can anyone explain how that is even possible?

1. another extension would be needed, probably 18+ months
2. lets accept a new WA was agreed in 3 months, could it pass parliament as Tories, LibDem & SNP would just block it and we are back into infinite extensions?
3. a special labour conference would be convened to decide what Corbyn will think about the 3rd WA (another month passes)
4. apparently it would then take nearly 9 months to have another referendum, if all sides agree and they wont.
5. a new 'implementation period' will also have to be agreed, as current one will have expired
6. so we are probably talking 13-18 months
7. then we are straight into the SNP referendum to break up the UK
8. then another 2/3 years negotiating the future deal with the EU
9. then another 2/3 years negotiating the future deal with an independent Scotland.

So a minority Corbyn win will literally be 5 years of referendum, wrangling, extensions, Brexit negotiations and ScotNat negotiations. How would our country ever survive all that?

And that is before we even talk about the referendum. Could it even be legal to have a referendum with 'remain verses don't leave'. Who would campaign for the Corbyn don't leave option? I just cant get my head around a referendum with only one side campaigning in it. Imagine the debates lol?

Could it be a legitimate outcome if leavers dont vote so remain wins by 95% with a turn out much less than even half the original referendum?

@limer

God forbid that anyone loses a cheap (underpaid) cleaner, or the lovely bathroom fitter that was half the price of everyone else! How ever else will anyone have the time or the money to collate a suitable brexageddon waitrose based stockpile and go on marches! The horror!

As for the other stuff, I tend not to delve into immigration issues, as for me, that wasn’t a reason for casting my vote. But I understand that it was a key issue for some.

Can anyone explain how that is even possible?

@walkingdeadfangirl I can't believe that anyone wanting to get Brexit done ASAP would think that Labour could do it! At least the Conservatives are poised and ready, given a majority.

@Epicwaffle LOL... and I don't often say this... but poor Diane

Don't forget the civil unrest if any remain party wins and tries to stop brexit.
. It won't be pretty and whilst I never advocate violence, I wouldn't blame people for turning to riots like Paris when the people in power don't kisten.

Who would vote for jezza though?

Not anyone with a garden, or who wants to leave a legacy to their family, no one who believes we need nuclear power, no one who is a jew? Or believes the racism towards Jews is hideous... On and on and on.

The tories represent a semblance of normality at rue moment and balance between the extreme right wing liberals (!!) and hard nasty left.

😮 at the size of Jezza's marrow!!!

Still unpersuaded though 😳

It’s not so much voting for Jeremy Corbyn as PM, you’re also voting in Diane Abbott as Home Secretary 😱

They assume everyone good voted like them.............. This is my plight. I am one of the good liberals, on social issues like gay marriage... I am somewhat to the left. Economically, I'd approve a fairer playing field. But democracy... each vote counts for one, and no more, regardless of how good you think you are.

One of the op-ed pieces that swayed my decision in 2016 was reading, in the Times, that some EU commissioners thought only those educated to degree level should be granted a vote. I was incandescent: my father and FIL, no degrees but holding the Queen's Commission as officers and pilots in the services; my mother and MIL, both SRNs (now requires a degree), my grandfather, who left school at 14 but who became chief technical standards officer for Concorde with BAe. How can you compare qualifications like that with a 2:2 from a third rate polytechnic and say one can vote and another not? I think that was my tipping point.

"God forbid that anyone loses a cheap (underpaid) cleaner, or the lovely bathroom fitter that was half the price of everyone else! How ever else will anyone have the time or the money to collate a suitable brexageddon waitrose based stockpile and go on marches! The horror! "

I thought you all eschewed stereotypes. I don't have a fecking cleaner. I have never had an E European plumber or whatever. I am a general prepper so of course I have a stockpile but not just for Brexit. I've never been on a march in my life. I voted Remain.
I don't know anyone who voted Remain who does any of those things listed above.