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Westminstenders: Christmas Cold, Campaigning, Canvassing and Cancelled Carols

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RedToothBrush · 29/10/2019 18:45

It looks like a December General Election is on.

The EU have officially extended A50 until 31st January. We have to name an EU Commissioner though.

All that seems left to do is decide between the 9th and 12th December.

The difference between the two is about whether there is any possibility that the WAB can be passed before Parliament dissolves.

A pre-brexit GE is thought to favour the LDs at the expense of Labour and the Conservatives. What the Brexit Party decide to do and where they decide to stand will also be crucial.

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chomalungma · 31/10/2019 16:46

The YouGov survey was based on a much bigger sample of 11,000 people.

It shows what people already know

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/10/31/2019-general-election-demographics-dividing-britai

Westminstenders: Christmas Cold, Campaigning, Canvassing and Cancelled Carols
DGRossetti · 31/10/2019 16:47

The judge's summing up brought it home to me - and many other students at the time - how the upper class Establishment will protect each other so effectively

Is this a book you would like your wife or servants to read ? is also a howler of privilege and the establishment (nod to the Peter Cook reference previous Grin)

And as for "denso Dennings" brilliant legal mind ... well, less said, the better. Because that would be an appalling vista.

DGRossetti · 31/10/2019 16:50

Tactical voting website criticised for 'bogus' advice

With enough money, anyone could knock up and publicise a crappy website to steer credulous voters towards the best vote for the Tories in their constituency under the guise of "tactical voting" to achieve the opposite with zero oversight.

BlueGingerale · 31/10/2019 16:57

You’re forgetting students in Uxbridge. I think Brunel has 10,000 students (a lot of them are locals / Londoners)

If most of them didn’t vote in Uxbridge last election and do vote (Labour) in Uxbridge in this election Boris will be out.

AutumnCrow · 31/10/2019 16:58

Are these Bercow's final minutes in the Speaker's Chair?

MockersthefeMANist · 31/10/2019 17:00

Mea Culpa:

I assumed that Bercow would either carry on until Tuesday or go on gardening leave and let the deputies handle business up to dissolution, but no, he's going tonight.

HoC having a long weekend, no business on Friday, then back on Monday to choose a new speaker, who will have one day of not very much to do on Tuesday before dissolution. It's almost certainly going to be Hoyle.

New Parliament in December could choose to have another Speaker, a more Brexity one, if BJ gets his majority.

mummmy2017 · 31/10/2019 17:00

Students, what you want them to get out of bed and put their phones down and do something.
Well.

AutumnCrow · 31/10/2019 17:02

Bestow is chairing this adjournment debate and that's it. Gone.

Bloody hell.

Rev Rose gone as well.

And of an era.

MockersthefeMANist · 31/10/2019 17:05

And a lot of Remainer Tory Women MPs standing down, likely to be replaced by Brexity men.

Hasenstein · 31/10/2019 17:05

Is this a book you would like your wife or servants to read ?

Thought that little gem came up in the Lady Chatterley's trial. Point remains the same, though. Paternalistic voice of privilege. I can imagine Rees-Mogg spouting this in his fake-poncey accent.

OffTheShelfElf · 31/10/2019 17:06

@BlueGingerale, yes, but isn't there a real risk that the student vote could be split between Labour / Lib Dem / Greens, thus not adding sufficient weight in any one direction to unseat Boris?

Alsohuman · 31/10/2019 17:07

The quality of the replacements is going to be awful with so many standing down with no notice. Those are the seats for Labour and LibDems to do deals.

DGRossetti · 31/10/2019 17:11

Thought that little gem came up in the Lady Chatterley's trial.

It did, and it betrayed the whole attitude to censorship (and other laws) which is basically they're to keep the proles in order. Even now - 2019 - look how many posh twats swan around as if "the law" is something for other people to worry about.

I tend to follow John Stuart Mill in some things. Certainly:

"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not sufficient warrant..."

If you ever have the will to hear an earnest debate on subjects like censorship, or drugs, it's not long before proponents explain how it's other peoples moral deficiency they are worried about (children are always a good shoe-in here). Not their own (which can't exist) obviously.

derxa · 31/10/2019 17:13

I must say Corbyn's speech terrified me today. I'm not usually prone to hyperbole.

MockersthefeMANist · 31/10/2019 17:17

WTF Moment:

Donald Trump has called LBC

tobee · 31/10/2019 17:18

Students, what you want them to get out of bed and put their phones down and do something.
Well.

🤣🤣🤣🤣Hmm

tobee · 31/10/2019 17:18

Seriously Mockers ?!?

chomalungma · 31/10/2019 17:18

Bercow is welling up....

MockersthefeMANist · 31/10/2019 17:20

....Seriously.

Farage's show, natch.

He likes BJ and thinks Corbyn would be 'very bad.'

PotterHead1985 · 31/10/2019 17:20

@chomalungma he keeps doing so poor bugger.

tobee · 31/10/2019 17:23

How will that go down over here? And Trump saying Farage and Johnson should get together?

tobee · 31/10/2019 17:23
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Hoooo · 31/10/2019 17:24

Wow

MockersthefeMANist · 31/10/2019 17:27

So who remembers when Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue, and who was outraged at that?

(Clue: He hosts a phone-in on LBC)