GE is on! Remainers how will you vote?

[WarwickLife]

Just that really! The General Election is on, either 11th Dec or a few days before but it's going to happen now that Labour have agreed. Tactical voting websites are being prepared as we speak.

If you are a remainer, who will you vote for?

(And if any leavers lurk here, will you vote for Tories or Brexit party?)

That's a tired right-wing trope.

You must be pretty ignorant not to know that that “tired right-wing trope” is policy passed by Labour conference a couple of months ago!

"As soft a Brexit as possible" because that will instantly and magically appease the hard core of now-radicalised angry BXP-type Brextremists, and we'll all get together singing Kumbaya, and therefore one should vote Tory rather than [insert parties opposed to hard Brexit].

Not policy, Cendrillon, motions passed at Conference - a kind of wish list of some members.

You and I both know it won't make it to the manifesto - and is not and won't be policy.

Keep on like this and I'm going to start thinking you have a reason for telling porkies.

Abolishing private education and confiscating property won’t be in the Labour manifesto. Right wing scaremongering

I'm sorry, but at the last labour conference they pledged to 'integrate all private schools into the state sector'. How will they achieve that without abolishing private education and confiscating property?

So are all the pledges bollocks then?

If they really have no intention of doing it, why have they let people think that they have? I'd probably vote for them if it wasn't for that, so it seems idiotic to publicise something that they have no intention of doing.

We’re knowledgeable enough to know that the policy is to remove charitable status and tax dodges from private schools, not abolish them @CendrillonSings.

Keep on like this and I'm going to start thinking you have a reason for telling porkies.

You must be confusing me with somone who cares what you think!

So Labour is lying when it claims that policy is decided at Labour conference, presumably to sucker its more gullible members? Good to know.

We’re knowledgeable enough to know that the policy is to remove charitable status and tax dodges from private schools, not abolish them so what about the pledge to integrate them into the state sector

we need some healing in this country. I'm tired of the Leave/Remain split and the endless acrimony

You think leaving will end that? Really? When it al goes to shite and the economy tanks, that the remainers won’t blame the leavers and it won’t cause more acrimony and bitterness?

No need to be sorry.

Any one of us could find ourselves telling porkies on the internet.

If only one could get paid for it!

It's an easy mistake to make.

But I'll say it again:

It's not in the manifesto.

It's not in the manifesto.

It's not in the manifesto.

Conference is where members go, meet, network, put forward motions which indicate members' wishes.

Those motions may or may not become policy.

Angela RYner has already indicated this one won't be policy.

You know it, I know it.

Never happening @Trewser. Too many Labour politicians send their kids to them. At least taxpayers who can’t afford them won’t be subsiding them any more. Quite rightly.

It's collaborative, Cendrillon.

Unlike the Brexit Party - which is a limited company that seems to be set up to fleece the gullible and undermine the UK.

@Alsohuman

We’re knowledgeable enough to know that the policy is to remove charitable status and tax dodges from private schools, not abolish them

I’m afraid all you’re demonstrating is your ignorance. Unless you think this report from the Guardian is a lie?

www.theguardian.com/education/2019/sep/22/labour-delegates-vote-in-favour-of-abolishing-private-schools

Labour delegates have endorsed radical plans that would abolish private schools by removing their charitable status and redistributing their endowments, investments and properties to the state sector.

Conference delegates approved a motion that said such a commitment should be included in the party’s next general election manifesto.

Maybe you’ll acknowledge that you were wrong, eh? Or maybe facts don’t matter to you?

This is from the FT

"Labour has pledged to abolish all independent schools in the UK if it wins the next general election, following a motion passed by delegates at its annual conference on Sunday.

The opposition party has resolved to include a commitment in its next election manifesto to “integrate all private schools into the state sector”. "

Or is this just virtue signalling bollocks?

I’m a remainer technically as I voted remain previously. However I truly believe the leave result should be implemented so I’m voting Tory

I know Trewser - unfortunately for them, we can read what their far-left membership is planning in black and white, no matter how much they lie about it!

I’m a remainer technically as I voted remain previously. However I truly believe the leave result should be implemented so I’m voting Tory

I really struggle to believe anyone who says that. Not sure why. 🤔🤔🤔

I think its really common actually NoWordForFluffy

A midwife voting Tory???
I presume that's just a random username...

I think so too @Trewser. I live in an area that voted overwhelmingly for Remain in 2016. In the GE of 2017 there was still a lot of support for Remain and the idea that a second referendum could turn things around, but I feel the tide has turned. Everyone I speak to now feels that we need to leave the EU with a deal asap.

I also know many Remainers who think we should Leave with a deal, they are a mix of Labour and Tory voters.

A Poem for Mumsnet as the General Election is Declared:

Children, listen!

As the winter darkness

Deepens, settles, draws everything tight to it

And squeezes day

To a thin grey sheet, drawn tight on a washing line, stiff with cold:

They come.

At first

A disturbance of the settled agreement between darkness and shadow - no more than a quickness that snags the eye - but

Gone before reason settles them to a shape and name,

A whisper or sudden squawk that unsettles peace and scratches calm.

But they come and come,

More and more,

Called by the election!

Until the winter dark is all rough edges and discontent, and all conversation lies torn and ragged over the rough shrieking, and reason is broken by lies.

The trolls are coming!

'Oink oink oink,' they cry.

Porkie pies falling from their mouths, like some obscene parody of birth and truth.

All most unfortunate for those of us who like to chat. ☹️

@squid4 no I’m a midwife. There’s no need to generalise. I know teachers, doctors and a police officer who will all be voting conservative as well. Our political opinions aren’t based solely on our jobs you know

I voted remain but I think we probably should leave with a (soft) brexit. I don't understand how that suggests I should vote tory - I would never ever. Do people not use hospitals & schools, see the homeless, know people using foodbanks?? Ah man it's enough to make you cry sometimes.