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GE is on! Remainers how will you vote?

806 replies

WarwickLife · 29/10/2019 11:10

Just that really! The General Election is on, either 11th Dec or a few days before but it's going to happen now that Labour have agreed. Tactical voting websites are being prepared as we speak.

If you are a remainer, who will you vote for?

(And if any leavers lurk here, will you vote for Tories or Brexit party?)

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FinallyJones · 02/11/2019 12:33

Remainer here and after hearing Trump telling the nation on LBC not to vote Labour, I'm going to do just that!

CendrillonSings · 02/11/2019 12:37

Because you're enabling the hard right government by voting for them, that's why.

And if you vote Labour, you’re enabling a bunch of far-left loons. But I suppose that’s all right because ... socialism?

zafferana · 02/11/2019 12:40

Agree @CendrillonSings. Actually, I don't think that Boris is that hard right - he's a 'One Nation' conservative, whereas JC is as hard left as it comes. It's not seen as being unacceptable to be hard left though, for some strange reason.

NoWordForFluffy · 02/11/2019 12:42

I'd rather 'far left loons' than BoZo and his country-wreckers who don't give a flying fuck about the poor and vulnerable.

NoWordForFluffy · 02/11/2019 12:43

You don't think that BoZo is pandering to the hard right ERG and enabling them? He is certainly NOT One Nation currently and anyone who thinks he is clearly can't see what's happening in front of their eyes.

TheElementsSong · 02/11/2019 12:45

There will be bitter and ongoing acrimony.

And your formula for ending this is...?

You honestly think that "getting Brexit done" (Hmm now which party's slogan is that?) will achieve unified peace and contentment throughout the land? Well done though, for acknowledging [when other posters have pointed out] that it's not going to be "done" for years and then saying "ah yes, but it's a start", etc etc...

So, which is it? Is it all going to be "Done" pif-paf-poof magically, by voting Tory? Or is it only the start of years of more shite?

OublietteBravo · 02/11/2019 12:46

My preferred option would be LibDem. But I live in a Labour/Tory marginal (Labour majority of ~800 in 2017), so I’ll vote Labour.

Limitedsimba123 · 02/11/2019 12:47

I don’t think Labour have a chance of getting a majority though, so that makes it less likely that any of their more extreme ideas will go anywhere. A remain coalition would be better than a Tory majority, and that is what I’m hoping for.

Herewego2020 · 02/11/2019 12:50

@Drabarni I'm with you on that one!

I'm anti trump too so I'm not voting for his pal Borris. I'm also a fan of Labours Louise Haigh I think she is fab, as is Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi.

@Topseyt brexshit 😂

As for staying or leaving.... this country has no issues going to other countries and saying "you need democracy" and forcing it upon them.. then when issues like the Brexit shambles arise say "oh well I'm not sure I like that idea shall we roll the dice again"..

Mistigri · 02/11/2019 12:58

he's a 'One Nation' conservative

Who has overseen the exodus of most one nation Tories from the party?

You're having a laugh (or more likely you're just spinning a party line).

zafferana · 02/11/2019 13:00

And your formula for ending this is...?

Regrettably (since I voted Remain), it is to agree a deal with the EU that causes the minimum damage to this country and its economy and to leave the EU. The time to point out that referendums are only advisory, or that a certain threshold of support for any issue put to a referendum must be reached in order for it to be acted upon, was in 2016. Unfortunately, I think the only democratic way forward at this point is to go ahead with as soft a Brexit as possible.

zafferana · 02/11/2019 13:02

And no, I'm not 'spinning a party line', since I'm not a Tory. But many of us will be voting for the the least worst option in this election.

Limitedsimba123 · 02/11/2019 13:04

I do wonder where some Tory voters lines are though when despite all the below, they would still prefer Johnson over Corbyn as PM.

Met police refer files on vote leave investigation to CPS.
Gov sits on report re Russian interference
Facing misconduct enquiry re Acruri conflict of interest

I won’t touch on the obvious Islamophobia in the party ( or Johnson’s “letterbox” comments) as Labour are no better in the racism regard.

CendrillonSings · 02/11/2019 13:23

Limbasimba123

My line is “Which party is going to introduce far-left policies like abolishing private schools, imposing crushing taxes, and confiscating private property?” That’ll be the Labour Party.

Having identified them, I then vote in the way most likely to keep them as far from power as possible!

NoWordForFluffy · 02/11/2019 13:33

But BoZo's 'deal' is as far from a soft Brexit as you can get. And is NOT the 'least worst' option.

Just own up to being a Tory, @zafferana. It's clear you're not a Lib Dem in the way you're trying to influence people to vote Tory by spouting utter lies (or, if I'm being generous and taking you at your word) total misunderstanding of the situation.

squid4 · 02/11/2019 13:39

I voted remain but I have bigger concerns than brexit. Having said that I think labour's position on it is the most potentially unifying for a divided country

I'll vote labour and I really admire their manifesto. Local labour MP great too

I'm a bit older, but everyone I know under 30 is voting labour

Was a floating voter until 2015 have been labour since then, and like many joined the party cause of corbyn

fedup21 · 02/11/2019 13:41

I am a LD member

Sorry, but chinny reckon!

NoWordForFluffy · 02/11/2019 13:41

Retro comment, @fedup21! It needs using more often! Grin

PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind · 02/11/2019 13:47

This kind of shite is why Labour are struggling so much, even in the face of the performance of the Tories.

This was posted by a Labour parliamentary candidate in Scotland, about an SNP MP that she disagrees with. Joking about spraying chemicals at people you disagree with. Implying that people you disagree with are 'dirt'. The use of BANG in the wake of Jo Cox (in fact this woman was on the JC leadership programme). The use of a term which is often used in the context of violence against women (punch a TERF, I want to slit a TERFs throat, hang a TERF etc). Condoned by other labour party members. Posted by someone who wants to represent Labour in Parliament.

I know the whole trans/women's rights thing is just one issue, and it really isn't the only issue for me. But this sort of stuff really does epitomise the state of the Labour Party for me right now. The total intolerance for views different to your own, the tribalism, the hyposcrisy, the nastiness, the misogyny, the abandonment of any kind of sensible judgement because you are too preoccupied with putting across a certain image to certain people. All from the party who claims to be 'the party that cares'.

I hate that this is what the Labour Party has become.

GE is on! Remainers how will you vote?
zafferana · 02/11/2019 13:53

I honestly couldn't care less if you believe me or not @fedup21

Graphista · 02/11/2019 14:21

"”Leaving" doesn't get Brexit done, it just gets it started“ definitely!

I think an awful lot of people don’t realise/acknowledge that, I’ve a few on my Facebook feed who are saying they’re just fed up/bored of the whole thing and that’s why they now “just want it done” but it’ll drag on for bloody decades!!

“The alternative is more of the stasis and hand wringing we've had for the past three years” no the actual alternative is remain which would put an end to it in real terms. Yea the leavers will moan but I honestly don’t think in a very strong or long term way, it’s the only way to draw a line under this nonsense.

Totally disagree that Johnson is not hard right and that Jc is hard left. Johnson is pandering to the likes of rees-Mogg and Jc is left of centre but because the Uk political landscape is leaning so right at the moment it makes Jc look more left than he is!

CendrillonSings · 02/11/2019 14:31

Totally disagree that Johnson is not hard right and that Jc is hard left.

So Corbyn isn’t planning to ban private education and to confiscate private property? Because those are pretty damned far left by any standard!

Alsohuman · 02/11/2019 14:40

Abolishing private education and confiscating property won’t be in the Labour manifesto. Right wing scaremongering.

thecatfromjapan · 02/11/2019 14:45

😂 @ 'banning private school' and 'confiscating private property'.

No.

That's a tired right-wing trope.

Meanwhile, John Major has warned the UK electorate not to trust the NHS to Johnson.

CarolCutrere · 02/11/2019 14:55

I do wonder where some Tory voters lines are though when despite all the below, they would still prefer Johnson over Corbyn as PM

I first voted Labour in 1979 and every election since except the last one. I prefer Johnston over Corbyn. I hope the Labour party is trounced and humiliated as it's the only way it might see sense.

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