GE is on! Remainers how will you vote?

[WarwickLife]

Just that really! The General Election is on, either 11th Dec or a few days before but it's going to happen now that Labour have agreed. Tactical voting websites are being prepared as we speak.

If you are a remainer, who will you vote for?

(And if any leavers lurk here, will you vote for Tories or Brexit party?)

I won't be voting Conservative in this election.

And I'm furious with Labour, who I have always voted for and who should be fucking walking this election after what the Tories have been playing at, for making me have huge reservations about voting for them either.

But please spare us the faux concern for how much self-ID will hurt poor women when you're planning to vote for a party whose "Brexit Deal" will cost the country billions and represents a massive threat to all our most important rights and protections. Ask a "poor woman" whether they'd sooner have a functioning NHS or the removal of a one in a million chance that a man might enter a woman's toilet while she's actually using it

I agree with you in principle (about the awfulness of the Tories) but I don't think it's right to be so reductionist about an issue that is of such concern for many women. It's a big deal and I for one am glad to see it being factored into people's decision making

Remainer. Lib Dem.

Conservative

I do not understand how anyone can vote Tory after what they've done to the country, unless they are very rich or very stupid

Or don't want a band of loony socialists to rob them blind...

@Trewser ah well you won't be a fan of their ideas about holding private schools to account or making them taxes I imagine. (Let alone abolishing them). You sound more like a natural Tory and my plea wasn't aimed at them.

@PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind as opposed to Johnson, Cummings and friends? I'm afraid the morality and integrity elevator left that floor years ago.

I agree with you in principle (about the awfulness of the Tories) but I don't think it's right to be so reductionist about an issue that is of such concern for many women. It's a big deal and I for one am glad to see it being factored into people's decision makin

Yes, that's a fair comment. I was just a bit cynical about people suddenly discovering such a "concern" for poor women they're happy to vote for policies which will have a far more detrimental impact on them than any amount of self-ID could ever do. But it was a flippant comment to make, I can see that.

Exactly @prettybird we have to be pragmatic here

I actually don't hugely disagree with Vat on fees. I don't want them abolished though as my dcs rather like their school. So I'd be a fool to vote for a party who makes it quite clear they are happy to weaponise my children's education. I always voted Labour in the past when they were more centrist. Ideally for me, we'd have a one nation Tory party.

@HPFA I do agree with your wider point though

*If you're going to vote Conservative then do so, it's not my choice but you have the absolute right to make it.

But please spare us the faux concern for how much self-ID will hurt poor women when you're planning to vote for a party whose "Brexit Deal" will cost the country billions and represents a massive threat to all our most important rights and protections. Ask a "poor woman" whether they'd sooner have a functioning NHS or the removal of a one in a million chance that a man might enter a woman's toilet while she's actually using it.*

^^ yes

And above all, this:

I do not understand how anyone can vote Tory after what they've done to the country, unless they are very rich or very stupid

I was just a bit cynical about people suddenly discovering such a "concern" for poor women they're happy to vote for policies which will have a far more detrimental impact on them than any amount of self-ID could ever do

I haven't just discovered a concern and I don't agree with you that its unimportant. It is very important to me, my dds and my gds.

I would find it really depressing not to be able to understand other people's point of view. I'm neither very rich or at all stupid.

Also - this thread: "please don't let one silly policy which probably won't happen stop you voting Labour!"
Me "I feel strongly about this and also this"
Thread: "you must be stupid"

remainer here, will be voting lib dem. I'm still pissed off with the tuition fees and other stuff but it's the only remain option. (and also the only realistic chance in my strong Tory constituency 😑)

I will be keeping an eye on the tactical voting sites and will vote for the party most likely to oust the current conservative mp.

Suddenly developing a concern for women.
Do people realise how they sound.

I have not suddenly developed a concern for women. I've been writing to mps about it for some time now. My lib dem MP tried to make me feel like a bigot. So now I have a chance to reply by not voting for him.

I understand where you're coming from @Trewser - your position makes sense to me

I hear you too Trewser.

Thanks.

I also really hate this idea that anyone who has huge concerns about JC and Labour in its current form has been hoodwinked by the 'right wing press'.

As if we are too stupid to be able to form a decision by ourselves.

It's that kind of attitude which got us into this Brexit mess in the first place.