“The current Tories have a right wing agenda“
The tories ALWAYS have a right wing agenda they’re a right wing party always have been always will be.
I’m honestly astonished at the lack of awareness from some posters as to what the tories stand for. Can’t remember all the usernames but how on EARTH are you SURPRISED that they are anti women, anti working class, anti welfare state, anti decent funding of public services? And if you think they aren’t ALSO racist AND anti-Semitic (one of the main criticisms of the Labour Party, although from what I’ve seen it’s less anti Semitic and more not blindly pro Israel!) then quite honestly you’re deluded!
They have a very long history of being the party for very wealthy, elite WASP men! That’s who they prioritise EVERY time!
I’m equally astonished at those who seem completely unaware of Labour Party history and ethos. I’ve said before on political threads and it’s rarely not the case that there are an awful lot of posters who describe themselves as “lifelong labour voters” and they’re not necessarily inaccurate technically if they’re aged 40 or younger, but it means they have quite possibly never voted for a Labour Party true to the origins and ethos of the party if they haven’t voted since corbyn became leader.
Because in my and many others opinion the leaders from Blair until Harman were NOT true Labour Party people and as a result the party lost its way somewhat during this period. Being often “Tory lite”
The current Labour Party are far closer to the original beliefs and policies of the historic Labour Party.
I would have been a lifelong labour voter myself had it not been for Blair and his acolytes. Never trusted him from the off and was proven right over time, and believe me I’ve had other labour voters who liked him & his really take me to task over it but I always felt he was duplicitous and not truly committed to labour heart and I was right.
I genuinely don’t understand anyone who votes Tory who isn’t at least upper middle class, but more likely independently wealthy, because they have absolutely zero regard for anyone who is below that strata. They don’t believe in the welfare state, the nhs, workers rights, tertiary education being available to all, publicly funded social care...
They think being poor is a character flaw, they think they’re better off because they “work hard” which is bollocks because nmw workers, nurses, carers, police officers etc all work a damn sight harder than the average exec! They think many illnesses and disabilities are down to people not taking responsibility for their health.
As a mentally ill person I can tell you whatever they might say in press releases, their actions in terms of funding for mh services and how the mentally ill are treated in terms of getting benefits or even in attempting to return to work show how they REALLY think and it ain’t pretty!!
So if you or any of your loved ones are in need of Nhs, social care, education, anti discrimination policies being upheld, in receipt of benefits, in low paid jobs then you’d be voting against all of them by voting Tory.
Wealthy people voting Tory I may not like but I get it, at least it’s honest in being self serving and it makes sense.
I have a few friends who are Tory voters, 2 of them are from extremely wealthy backgrounds and while we disagree i understand where they’re coming from. The others include a single mum in a nmw job getting top up benefits who constantly complains about the low nmw etc, a working class couple not much younger than my parents who are struggling health/fitness wise to keep working as they can’t afford to retire, and a disabled guy who is working but his employers are getting less and less flexible about the time he needs off for hospital appointments etc and he complains about that and when appointments are cancelled as the services are unavailable due to cuts. Yet these latter ones are voting for the very party that is making their lives harder - I don’t get it at all.
“Historic demonisation of 'single mothers don't you mean the Daily Mail?” I’m sure that poster didn’t mean that at all! The demonisation of single mothers is VERY clear in their policies and implementation of those policies eg 2 child limit and rape clause, which mainly affect women not only exists but is stringently enforced whereas the laws regarding child maintenance are very poorly enforced and the majority of nrps are...men! And rps are mostly women and they AND the children suffer as a result of the almost complete lack of will to address the inequalities here. That’s just one example there are many!