Westministenders: Slow News Fake News

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Things have been slow whilst we are in proroguation, ahead of next weeks Queen's Speech and the EU summit.

We've been in full spin mode, from the likes of the far right and an unnamed source at No.10.

People seem to be waking up to the reality that its highly unlikely we will get a deal now, unless something significant. And No.10 has worked out the NI problem. FINALLY.

Anyway, if you have a little time this week and you are interested in the history of where technology change and fake news meet and how where we are now is merely things repeating themselves, Ian Hislop's Fake News: A True History, is essential viewing.
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00095hv/ian-hislops-fake-news-a-true-history

I really feel strongly this is stuff that should be being taught in schools somehow as its what protects us from extremism.

So Bernier has given the green light to further negotiations.

• Barnier

DG I expect it to be decades and that any UK govt will keep extending the transition with the EU's consent
The EU would be happy enough to modify the WA accordingly

Business also needs the agencies and are reminding the govt already:

Faisal Islam@faisalislam

NEW: Key manufacturers warn “serious risk” in new Johnson Brexit deal plan,
after Govt fails to reassure still seeks participation in EU agencies EASA, ECHA, EMA..

BBC obtains letter from Aerospace body ADS over fears commitments in existing political declaration to be dropped

The EU won't be bothered much if the agency commitment goes, but it would really affect the UK - if we ever get out of transition

So is UK now not going to be dumping all of our Euratom waste in NI? How do they get around what UK does to NI because the UK doesn't have to respect the EU rules? Just looking ahead and seeing that UK would possibly be able to put NI in a few rather awkward situations...

OK Hurdle 1) down ✅
Two more to go, with 3) - HoC approval - being the real crunch one

^Key manufacturers warn “serious risk” in new Johnson Brexit deal plan,
after Govt fails to reassure still seeks participation in EU agencies EASA, ECHA, EMA..^

Of course to keep them means BINO ....

IT'S ONLY THE START

It will continue to jam up parliament and government time for years. It will almost certainly span the lives of more than one government and encounter issues and problems that aren't visible or known about right now.

Excuse I have heard given by David Davis is that well we negotiate with the EU all the time anyway.

BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME AS EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD DAVID!!!

poulet The backstop protects NI, because being in the SM / having frictionless access to it, means obeying all the SM regs and conditions

The main things we need from EURATOM are access to nuclear fuel & nuclear medicine

The UK is bound by international UN regs, which would prevent simply dumping nuclear waste

The IAEA (international Atomic Energy Agency) is a world organisation which the UK can't leave, unless it wants to be a pariah

There doesn't have to be an election prior to Dec 2020. And if a W.A is passed many tory rebels will return to the fold. The opposition have to try and work out what to do - call a VoNC (which now may not pass) and risk losing their seats and gaining a Boris majority ... or sit still and be shut out of negotiations for the next year until Boris walks us all out (except for NI).

It's still all down to ifs and thens and even if all the best possible ifs and thens come about (absolutely not guaranteed) - then the outcome is still shit.

....which the UK can't leave, unless it wants to be a pariah

You would think

I was just thinking back, maybe 2 years ago, to a report that had NI as dumping ground for nuclear waste...alongside a large landfill up North where a site was being prepared for post Brexit (not nuclear). I've not got the links but will have a look and see if I can find it. I guess my Q is how does NI protect itself with us on it's doorstep using it in any way we can to mitigate our own post-Brexit issues (such as how to get rid of nuclear waste).

And if a W.A is passed many tory rebels will return to the fold.

I think the damage done is too deep. They may back a deal, but they'll never be "Tories" again. Even if they wanted to, others would not ...

A recent BBC article on nuclear waste dumping in NI

Here's a "fact checker" site discussing nuclear waste in NI which has...a UK govt 'spokesperson' dismissing the idea as rubbish . So I suspect it's whether we believe in anyone in the govt not to lie or break the law or laws of the EU and international nuclear laws once we are out Maybe we should ask ourselves "what would Trump do?".

Conflict of interest for Cumface here too with his AI healthcare which leads us to a privitisation road and I suspect sale of patient data. We're back into the insurance sales to US and big business who will want detailed info on health of employees before they pay out or offer protection .

If I remember rightly, the UK Gov has carried out a screening exercise for a nuclear waste GDF in NI. But any decision to proceed I think lies with Stormont?

Shouldn't we accept that the Taoiseach - who will have agreed this with other Irish parties - is the expert at getting the best deal for NI / Ireland?

He will have weighed everything up and balanced the risks vs the risks of No Deal

The future risks for GB are another matter, but theTaoiseach^^ is a damn sight more capable than BJ and the Brexshit crew
Varadkar would have Barnier and the whole EU Commission legal team supporting him and looking for loopholes
It's not Ireland vs the Uk govt

Latest word from Brussels:

Brexit is like climbing a mountain.

And so we are going into a tunnel.

Getting into the "tunnel" is a major step on the way to a WA
but there is still a long way to go

We'll need an extension then?

chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2019/10/if-theres-pathway-it-leads-to-dead-end.html?m=1

Chris Grey has quickly become one of my go to reads on Brexit. Very thorough and clear analysis of the current situation.

Looks like Brexit will be happening after all then. Corbyn should have agreed to an election when Boris offered one - it was the only chance we had to stop Brexit. Now Brexit will go ahead and we’ll be stuck with the Tories until 2022. Thanks, Corbyn.

We'd have had a no deal Brexit if they'd agreed to a GE. BoZo has been forced into this position BECAUSE they wouldn't allow a GE, not DESPITE it.

Of course, he should have won in 2017 when he had the chance - but still didn’t manage it.

We'd have had a no deal Brexit if they'd agreed to a GE.

But what about the Benn Act?

Looks like Brexit will be happening after all then. Corbyn should have agreed to an election when Boris offered one - it was the only chance we had to stop Brexit. Now Brexit will go ahead and we’ll be stuck with the Tories until 2022. Thanks, Corbyn.

Boris is screwing the country over and people are still blaming Corbyn!