Brexit Arms - Pop Up

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Well I’m going to have a crack at this Landlady business and I’ve opened a pop up pub.

Rules are:
Anything brexit related is up for discussion and even not Brexit related if you feel the need (so if you want to discuss Haemoroids that’s ok too ).

I’m ok with a bit of arseyness (it’s an emotive subject) but if you go full monty in here I reserve the right to withhold all alcoholic beverages.

I have reserved a quiet table for MNHQ if they want to pop in for a quiet drink (Happy Hour is 6-7pm).

Haven’t properly caught up yet with today’s Brexit news yet but looks like we are finally facing end game, that said still plenty of days left for high jinks and holidays.

Anyone have any views on how they think the next few days will play out are welcome to voice here.

First drinks are on the house 🍻 Cheers

....and the Japanese PM is the Shushō.

To add to the confusion, there used to be a Northern Ireland Prime Minister (Just four of them from 1921 to 1969), and from 1998 until recently, a First Minister, a linguistic distnction some languages cannot reflect.

And I just Googled "Northern Ireland Prime Minister" and the top listing was Leo Varadker.

Uachtarán translates to english as President.

Yeah, but it’s also defined as President in the Constitution, same as Taoiseach is defined as Prime Minister.

And I’ve always thought the informal name was the Gardaí?

...Not to be confused with the Irish Guards, changing the guard at Buckingham Palace.

And I just Googled "Northern Ireland Prime Minister" and the top listing was Leo Varadker.

Says a lot about the sites you tend to access as I got lots of stuff about Faulkner, O'Neill, Craig etc.

Well for Brexit, what did people think when they voted for it. NI was barely a thought despite warnings and Scotland had being told in their vote, vote no to independence if you want to stay in the EU.

We have our own versions of this kind of Myopic exceptionalism. We have The Royal (not British) Navy and Royal (ditto) Air Force, (but British Army) and The Football Association, not the English FA.

An interesting one is the RNLI, which is that througout its area of operation, including in the Republic, right down to the crown on the flag.

We have The Royal (not British) Navy and Royal (ditto) Air Force, (but British Army) and The Football Association, not the English FA.

And I have the manners to refer to them as such, once I know that is what they are called.

....and the Prime Minister of Malaysia is the Perdana Menteri.

TBC

The pound has enjoyed its biggest jump versus the euro in over six months, as a whole range of equities also basked in the good news surrounding Brexit today.
Sterling rose to a three-month high versus the dollar, hitting $1.27 on Friday afternoon after EU Council president Donald Tusk said he had seen "promising signals" about the possibility of a deal being reached.

Yeah, but it’s also defined as President in the Constitution, same as Taoiseach is defined as Prime Minister.

It also states 'the head of the Government, or Prime Minister, shall be called, and is in this constitution referred to as, the taoiseach.'

Prime minister is used here as a descriptor rather than a title. President is used in the english version of the constitution as it is the translation for president.

And I’ve always thought the informal name was the Gardaí?

It depends. Gardaí is the plural of garda, which means guardian. The organisation is called An Garda Síochána, which means the Guardian of the Peace. An individual serving in it is called a Garda so many people would use Gardaí, meaning guardians, to refer to them in the plural. Others use the anglicised version, the guards, and will refer to an individual as a guard.

@MockersthefeMANist - and the Prime Minister of Malaysia is the Perdana Menteri

You're merely adding to your xenophobic, arrogant image here.

FFS - people really do want to argue over everything don’t they?

Calling Varadkar the Irish PM isn’t the end of the world - people understand it

Calling Varadkar the Irish PM isn’t the end of the world - people understand it

No, it's not the end of the world but it's reflective of the lack of respect accorded to the Irish by the british establishment, the british media and some british people, throughout the whole brexit process.

it's not the end of the world but it's reflective of the lack of respect accorded to the Irish by the british establishment

It’s not due to a lack of respect, it’s due to most people’s inability to pronounce the correct word

We don’t use the local version of any other world leader title, we use the closest English version

It’s not due to a lack of respect, it’s due to most people’s inability to pronounce the correct word

You don't need to pronounce anything when writing.

We don’t use the local version of any other world leader title, we use the closest English version

So lack of respect to other nationalities too. Although not true, as I've seen the german Chancellor referred to as such.

why, most people can’t even spell it.

We all know what is meant - it’s not a big deal

You clearly could manage a fight in a paper bag - I’ll leave you to it

I thought he was Ireland's Emperor or Pharaoh. .... my bad.

It appears that the term Prime Minister can be used, as long as it wasn’t derogatory.

Which will depend on your personal interpretation of derogatory.

www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/1948-05-20/2/

We all know what is meant - it’s not a big deal

Pretty typical attitude of a certain type of british arrogance and lack of respect towards other nationalities. You can add the expectation that everyone will speak english, complaints about foreign food in an actual foreign country etc etc to further illustrate this.

Many British people recognise that there are other cultures, viewpoints etc and make an effort to respect these. Unfortunately, not all of you do.

FFS it does not matter.. grow up!

What matters is whether Boris concessions to the EU, rumoured to be a border in the sea, can get through Parliament.

I would imagine no - unless BJ is going to go far further than May ever did in confronting the ERG/DUP.

whyam

if i ever met the Taoiseach, i'd use his correct title, on here it doesn't funkin matter

if i ever met the Taoiseach, i'd use his correct title, on here it doesn't funkin matter

This ^^ get a grip why

The British look even more fucking stupid when trying to pronounce words in other languages that no one understands anyway.

For the purposes of discussions on here or in the media, Irish PM is perfectly acceptable.

If you insist on getting your knickers in a knot about that, you’re going to be twisted for a very long time.

Well the DUP have come out against any plan to keep NI in the custom union as predicted. Could Boris have already spoken to the ERG before his meeting with Varadkar? Why else would he even consider it if he knows they will vote against it?

Interesting pop up but what what happened to brexit arms?

Closed down?

I wonder what Boris said to Irish pm?
Most deals are done on the 11th hour.

Well the DUP have come out against any plan to keep NI in the custom union as predicted. Could Boris have already spoken to the ERG before his meeting with Varadkar? Why else would he even consider it if he knows they will vote against it?

I honestly don’t see where, and never have, BJ thinks he gets the numbers for this from, even if it is the least worst solution.

But it’s all so screwed up now, anything is possible.