Westminstenders: Pro Rogues

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The Pro Rogues plan to prorogue again this week.

The Queen might be challenged to sack Johnson. Or he might be forced to extend.

It depends on which newspaper you read. Either way it strikes you that no one really knows what's going to happen...

unravelling - iirc, the Indy proposal allows people whose grandparents were Scottish to claim citizenship, so you'll be fine

flouncyfanny - we have room for more than one tent (so DGR you're fine ) Plus I can talk nicely to our downstairs' neighbours to allow pitches on their half of the garden (the weeping cherry marks the edge of our half) ....for the dog lovers, they have a dog who I'm sure would enjoy being walked (he's always trying to escape).

Ive started reading this. It looks a bit like DS1 when he thinks his essay is a bit short and he thinks “I need to waffle on a tad more”. The Get ready for brexit, the brexit roadshow, the online Check tools...are these not the same thing?? The roadshow was basically an exercise at pointing to the online tool, advertised with Get ready logos ;-)

@prettybird that is an AMAZING garden!!!!

Siddal was the one that died of laudanum overdose after having miscarried a series of babies. DanteG was feeling so guilty because he was sleeping with someone else at the time that he buried her at the newly built Highgate cemetery with a book of poems he wrote for her years earlier in the casket, under her head. 3 years later he was skint and was persuaded to exhume her to get the book out and sell it. Apparently never recovered from the experience.
If you’ve never been to that cemetery, I warmly recommend it, it’s super creepy and fascinating, both east and west side.
That’s one of the story the guides tell you when you visit ;-)

I'd advise ANY regretful leave voting lurkers looking at this thread (hello!) to do the above ^. Let them know!
Shout. Loudly.
I agree. Leave voters are the only people that matter in the UK and they're the only ones who can turn this around. Problem is most of them still love Brexit.

I'd advise ANY regretful leave voting lurkers looking at this thread (hello!) to do the above . Let them know!
Shout. Loudly.^

Yes remember how you were told there'd be Norway or Norway plus. How we were told it would be the easiest deal in human history. You are not what you voted for.^ You really aren't.

Thanks Cherin.

It was Elizabeth Siddal who posed as Ophelia for Millais. But she only caught "a severe cold" according to Wiki.

Songs , just because.

Highgate Cemetery is indeed worth a visit - it's divided, iirc, into two parts.

Fwiw, Golders Green Cemetery gives it a pretty good run for its money with celebrities who were buried there, Sid James, Peter Sellers, Sigmund Freud, Keith Moon, Sir Bernard Spilsbury to name but a few.

cherin - we're lucky enough to live in a conservation area (one of the earliest ever planned garden suburbs - pre-dates Hampstead Garden Village ) so the back gardens can't be built on.

Most of the houses have been split into 2 or 3 and the gardens split in various ways. Ours is left and right at the back (but the hedge that split the flat area was taken down c25 years ago and we treat the flat grass as communal) and the front garden is shared.

The garden you can see across the wall was split front and back (but the downstairs owner bought out their neighbours upstairs and is reconverting it back into a single house and took down the fence splitting the garden).

Highgate also has Karl Marx and George Eliot ;-) and Litvenko (or however the surname is), the polonium-poisoned ex Russian spy. Quite an eclectic assortment.

Here she is being sensible again, Bercow:


Nick Eardley@nickeardleybbc

Merkel's spokesman
‘I can confirm that the chancellor and the Prime minister spoke on the phone today.

As usual we don’t make the contents of confidential conversations public.

So Bozo hasn't responded to the London assemblies request for info in the Arcuri case...... I am not surprised, but they have way more power than parliament to deal with someone who is in contempt (which is bloody silly - but we have all seen how he and Cummings have danced around parliament). So any ideas what happens next?

No. 10’s hysterical briefings on the lack of a Brexit deal are all aimed at making Brussels look like the guilty party in the eyes of British voters

Is it just me, or does BJ look creepy in the article photo photo

• maybe a talented photographer captured the real BJ when the mask was down

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2019-10-08/brexit-news-boris-johnson-plays-a-shameless-game-with-merkel?

Sterling down again on talk of No Deal
More happy hedge-funders

songsofexperience I’m so sorry you’re going through a tough time, I can only send wishes of positive resolution, and...when things get really messy I always try to tackle one small problem. I sit down and make a list and put at the top one thing that I know I can deal with. I do that, and that makes me feel better (at least I’ve started!) and gives me motivation to persist with the rest. I hope you find your “small” thing to tick in the list, and find a way to go through the others. Ask for help- there’s no glory in suffering in silence. Xxx

Disgraceful
The usual Tory contempt for Scotland, even wrt No Deal planning: 🤬

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/oct/08/brexit-lates-news-boris-johnons-dominic-cummings-accused-of-being-source-of-unofficial-no-10-threat-to-retaliate-against-eu-countries-that-back-extension-live-news

Scotland’s deputy first minister John Swinney accused the UK government of making planning for a no deal “unnecessarily difficult”
as he set out the SNP government’s current preparations to Holyrood this afternoon.

Announcing the establishment of a Scottish medicines shortage response roup, as well as a £7m rapid poverty mitigation fund to scale up measures to alleviate food, fuel and housing needs,
Swinney told MSPs that the UK government’s approach has been

“to actively limit the analysis shared with us,
to exclude the Scottish government from decision-making,
and to fail to share with us its own plans for actions to mitigate ‘no deal’.”

I am a regretful leave voter. Very regretful. Who do I have to let know? The pro Brexit threads you mean. I was tricked by the propaganda and believed I was voting against the establishment. How wrong I was.

Good wee blog from Wee Ginger Dug about the use by Tusk of Quo Vadis and relating it both to BJ and Scottish Unionists:

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com

If you scroll on down, there is also an excoriating account of The Mattress Fire of British Politics (including some Latin; he's a linguist and points out that even comprehensive educated guys like him can spout Latin ), before a post about the 100-200,000 person pro-Indy March at the weekend (including a lovely picture of a banner of "Celtic & Rangers fans for independence" )

Sorry to say not a pre Raphaelite fan. All a bit "women, you are a bunch of evil ladies of the night, leading poor weak men astray, you need to let God show you the way! (See The Awakening Conscience, Holman Hunt)

I think that was intended as an acid commentary on the shit deal women of the age got. Not that WHH was a great example. He dragged his poor wife (pregnant, or just having given birth) to Palestine to get the right smell of the air into his paintings ... (he really took "paint from life" literally).

Still, "The light of the world" - even as a grizzled old cynic, I find it strangely meaningful.

One thing I love about that era (and previous) artwork is the use of allegory, symbolism and metaphor in a way that isn't really used anymore. Which the Victorians also loved to play with on gravestones ... speaking of which , Highgate is well worth a visit. Both sides. If you want the Rossetti tomb, make sure you ask the guide. It's set back off the main path, and you're not allowed to go wandering.

There are some pretty funky mausoleums there - quite Italianate in places.

The whole history of Highgate is fascinating (Necropolis ) there's a great photobook "Victorian Valhalla" if peeps are interested.

If I lived in Ham & High, I'd love to think I could get a gig as a volunteer guide. But that's not going to happen now .

dusty
The PM.
The DExEU.
Your MP.
Your local newspaper.
Your friends.
Your family.
Tell them all this is NOT what you voted for.
I don't recall a disastrous no deal Brexit on the ballot paper....do you??

Thanks for the birthday wishes! :)
I'm mainlining chocolate

At least you've now rumbled those who are pushing Brexit, Dusty

You can now tell friends & family, your MP,
post that on MN threads, FB etc
and wherever Brexiters are still pushing the lies.

I love that Aiden Turner played DGR in "Dangerous Romantics" on the bbc a few years ago (swooooon)

Sorry....desperate romantics!