Boris’s Irish solution - is it workable?

[elprup]

It seems like it could be a viable solution to me, although I’ll admit that I’m by no means an expert on the subject. What do you think?

The whole idea is completely daft.
Even if you look at it from a individual, selfish & quite petty viewpoint.
E.g. I live in a NI village a few miles from the Irish Border. The nearest Chinese/Indian/Whatever takeaway is 3 miles away in the ROI.
Can I still have my takeaway?

I like to do my food shopping in Tesco (NI) as I like Tesco's & it's my nearest supermarket just across the border from my house in a ROI village.
Will my food shopping be impounded?

I'm a teacher in a school (ROI) but I live a 20 min drive away in NI.
Can I still make my own sandwiches & take them to work? Or will my sandwiches be quarantined?

Disclaimer I don't live in either country, however I know there are many people who do all the above.
Also what the hell happens with farms who have the Irish border running right threw their fields of sheep/cows/carrots etc?

This is a good map of NI which illustrates the problem. Most people in border areas see themselves as Irish and understandably don’t want checks or surveillance when travelling within their own country.

I despair of the UK government.
I'm sure they're from another planet & think us people are just pawns in their power struggles to be top dog.

Also what the hell happens with farms who have the Irish border running right threw their fields of sheep/cows/carrots etc?

And the roads that meander over and back across the border.

The whole problem with Ireland exists - because England invaded Ireland.

So they invaded another country- and said that it is part of the U.K.

So now that the U.K is leaving the EU, border problems arise because they invaded another country.

Lesson: do not invade other countries

Sadly England’s colonial legacy haunts many countries, even ones it has withdrawn from.

To the original questioner / Spad / aka the OP:

It solves nothing. It's stupid, offensive, unworkable and ridiculous.

elprup Wed 02-Oct-19 06:48:09
It seems like it could be a viable solution to me, although I’ll admit that I’m by no means an expert on the subject. What do you think?
Haven't read the whole thread but no, it's completely unacceptable to just about eveyone in Ireland (North and South) apart from the DUP who's grubby hands have clearly been all over it. I grew up about a mile from the border, happy to explain why in more detail if you like but this "proposal" wouldn't' be accepted by Ireland.

Sadly England’s colonial legacy haunts many countries, even ones it has withdrawn from.

England's only colonies were Bermuda and Newfoundland.

@mockers that is not right. I just did a quick google . It said

" there are only 22 countries in the whole world, that the U.K has NOT invaded"

Mockers that is entirely historicall correct.

Now do you see what you did, there?

@mockers how can you say that the U.K only had two colonies?

I am looking at an online article right now: the title is
"One hundred former British colonies around the world"

...Actually, not even Bermuda, which was an offshoot of the Virginia Company's Jamestown venture of 1609. Prior to that, England was only claiming the seas around it in response to Pope Alexander's notoious edict of 1492 granting all land west of the Azores to Spain and Portugal.

Jamestown: The clue is in the name.

There was no UK until 1707.

Your original post said, cutting and pasting:

Sadly England’s colonial legacy haunts many countries

I think mockers is differentiating between England and GB.

Someone else said "sadly, England's colonial legacy haunts many countries".

Not me.

Anyway if you want to be pedantic about it: we can list colonies under
Great Britain
United Kingdom
And
Just England

To include them all

Technically it was the Normans who invaded Ireland

And Ireland had already been invaded by the Vikings.
Frankly the Neolithic evidence in Ireland makes it pretty likely that someone came over and bumped off the people living on the island in the Mesolithic.

We're all Out Of Africa.

@CSharpLemon yea everybody invaded everybody in history, and people have invaded Ireland before.

But the current situation right now: That Northern Ireland exists, is due to the U.K. Invading it

And the U.K invading Ireland, has now caused the U.K itself - alot of problems.

That is Probably karma in action

Which time? Or maybe it’s the Scots invading it? Dalriada...

@csharplemon, if you really do not know your history to that extent, let me give you a swift lesson.

Ireland is currently split into two:
Northern Ireland, and
Republic of Ireland.

This is due to the English invading Ireland, taking the land off the Irish land owners and giving it to Scottish land owners.

This led to the Irish war of Independence and the Irish Civil war.

The U.K refused to give all of Ireland back to Ireland. They kept Northern Ireland. The rest of Ireland then formed a republic in the 20th century.

Many issues and fighting have happened in Northern Ireland since this happened

I live in Northern Ireland, but carry on.

@csharplemon. So? You are not the only person to ever live there. I have also lived there for a long time.