How will your life be better after Brexit?

[BertrandRussell]

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The alarming thing is that there are nuts in our cabinet with exactly the same mindset.
Vocal minority? 48% in June 2016, considerable more now.
Seriously, where are these people sourcing their information?

“The vote to leave will be vindicated in the near future, you are on the wrong side of history. ”

I can’t express how much I hope this is true.

Thegrasscouldbegreeener

TheGrass

oh You are an embarrassment only to yourself. Some of have standards, some of us have critical thinking skills, thank goodness for leavers hey.”

You are priceless 😆

That's the thing @BertrandRussell . I'd love these No Deal looms to be right. It'd be great.
Egg on my face? Bring it on! It would be a great result.
Sadly, they can't and won't the same . Because the consequences of them being wrong is too ghastly to contemplate.

Looms? More polite than what I meant.

Did grass just equate all of us who supported Remain to Nazi collaborators? Did I read that right? I'm tempted to report, and the only thing stopping me right now is that offensive idiocy like that should be allowed to stand in all its moronic glory.

My father survived the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands. His older sister has living memory of it still (she's 86 and completely compos mentis). I am beyond angry.

BertrandRussell

Me too. Could never imagine being happier to be proven completely wrong about anything. Will happily stand atop Queen Elizabeth’s Tower, flailing myself and shouting Nigel, you were right all along.
Give it 10 years for the repercussions, either way, to be felt and we’ll see. I for one will happily admit to being an idiot if the UK is thriving and will keep my counsel on everything, for evermore.

That feels, almost, threatening.

It is a worry at the amount of vitriol coming from people (mainly leavers)

There will be a day in the future when you will not be owning up to being a remainer at all, your commitment to the EU Commission cause will be watered down to such a degree that one might even imagine you supported leave back in the day. Those that betray our country as you have done already, the damage you have caused, you will have to live with yourselves.

So Remainers will be in fear of reprisals for Brexiters? Why, if it’s going to go so wonderfully, will Brexiters be angry?

You just could not make it up! Here we have John Major of all people who indulged in Prorogation himself taking our PM to court for the same thing. Hypocrite.

We have the lovely Jo now the leader of the liberal Democrats, they are anything BUT democratic now they have decided to ignore the vote and revoke altogether, despite voting to trigger article 50 at the time. Someone needs to come forward and sue them, they certainly can't be called Democrats anymore.

We have 'Change UK' that stands for keeping things exactly as they are. Why call your party change when you are seeking to do the opposite?? Strange thinking going on in the remain camp.

We have Corbyn, the most ardent leaver of them all now deciding he won't even have a view going forward (but we should be under no illusion he does care very much about leaving, he just can't share that with his shadow cabinet)

We have Gina Miller being bankrolled by Geroge Soros who for all intents and purposes is the real power and money behind the whole charade. Lets think why he doesn't want to leave shall we.....

Remain call for democracy, we need another vote, forgetting that we have had one already and should enact that first.

In the meantime PFear keeps on rolling with media backed by the multinationals to try and terrify the vulnerable.

It is great living in these times, you really do get a full view of who is really running this country (and it ain't the government) that much is obvious now.

Yep. can’t win an argument with reality so come over all dark, butch and threatening. Speaks volumes. But I sadly lack critical thinking skills and am an embarrassment to myself. Don’t pay any heed to me, Cactus, my lack of standards may taint you.
Thank you, TheGrass. A good belly laugh is such a tonic.

Bellingsurge - I don't think too many people will be bothered if they can't get fresh fruit and veg, seeing as 75% of adults don't eat the recommended 5 a day.

Sounds like someone is jumping up and down a corner being all excited. My dd this when she was a toddler too.

My life will be better because instead of wasting time in the supermarket choosing a good deal, Perusing the aisles and wasting time on what to buy, I’ll have less choice and no good deals so less time wasted. In and out. What could be better for a mum with 3 kids?!

So now, apparently, certain posters lives will be better after Brexit, because people with opposing political views will be persecuted

@Mamamia456 there with the "people are sit stupid so let's do something shit stupid and they won't care" argument.
Shame on you.

You don't even seem to understand English.

The reprisals will not come from Brexiteers or anyone else once we have departed. That is the whole point, once we have left we will have to move on. Finally.

In the future though, when your grandchildren talk about brexit it will be with a certain amount of shame that you will have to admit to voting remain, and damaging our country. I am sure some of you will have your reasons lined up.
It will be with shame, because by then the scales will have truly fallen from your eyes, and you will be able to see the EU monstrosity for what it is.

I don't blame any of you for feeling scared of the change, I don't blame any of you for being puffed in by the EU Commission. If you are in a vulnerable position there might be a very good reason to feel fearful, but you feel this way because they want you to feel this way.
Almost every country in the world operates perfectly well without the EU, and so will we.

It will be fine.

TheElementsSong

And this surprises you because? At least they're about their nasty opinions, I suppose.
You don’t need much sustenance when hatred can keep you going.

*honest about

Some very weird shit now being spouted by grass.
Reprisals? Very very strange. I wonder if they are ok.

Scales from our eyes? Blimey, coming over all righteous now.
Our grandchildren will only be able to dream of the kind of lives we had when the repercussions of this lunacy are felt.

Indeed “They” want you to feel this way,
Good grief.

Someone needs to come forward and sue them, they certainly can't be called Democrats anymore.

Go on then. Start a petition. Start a crowd fund to do so. Don't wait for others to do the thinking and acting for you. Or do your minders not want you to?

Mana

Shortage of fruit and veg is now a benefit of leaving because we all won't mind.

Anyhow, glad to see you are still making up stats, it is 64% (not 75%) who fail to eat 5 portions of fruit/veg... lets make that figure higher and put the UK back on top again!

This is a quote from a HoC research briefing on VAT on sanitary products (dated 08/07/19). It appears quite clear as to whose court the Tampon Tax ball is in.

It's not clear at all - I think you have misunderstood the research briefing.

^In January 2018 the European Commission finally published proposals to overhaul the EU rules on VAT rates – in effect, to reverse the current approach

The EU Commission published proposals in January 2018 - they are yet to be agreed by the member states.

There is no firm timetable for these proposals to be agreed

The EU Commission haven't established a firm timetable.

"Under the new proposal, tampons could be exempted from VAT. But if the proposed rules are adopted, they probably won’t be applied before 2022, and Britain is set to leave the EU next year anyway."

"The transition period is expected to last until the end of 2021 and Brussels demands that Britain abides by EU law for as long as it lasts. This means the 5 per cent rate would survive for 18 months after Brexit."

“The Commission, in general, as an institution, has been criticised for many years from all quarters because it does not allow certain products to benefit from reduced rates,” admitted EU Tax Commissioner Pierre Moscovici at a Brussels press conference."

www.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-tax-vat/eu-expected-to-give-states-more-leeway-to-cut-sales-tax-rates-idUKKBN1F61A6

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/01/18/eu-rules-forcing-britain-keep-tampon-tax-will-apply-years-brexit/

A previous VAT dispute with the EU;

"European Union judges today (4 June 2015) told the United Kingdom its lower rate of value-added tax (VAT) for home energy efficiency renovation is illegal."

"Britain enjoys a reduced rate on the installation and supply of “energy-saving materials” for housing, but now faces mounting weekly fines unless it changes the rules."

"The European Court of Justice (ECJ), which rules on points of EU law, in Luxembourg agreed with the European Commission and ruled that the lower price broke the VAT Directive."

www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/uk-s-green-vat-ruled-illegal-by-eu-judges/

I'm not sure what the eventual outcome was though;

www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/commission-mulls-relaxing-vat-rules-for-energy-efficiency-in-buildings/

Sanitary towels, tampons and panty liners are zero-rated for VAT in Ireland, as the rate was in place prior to EU legislation imposing minimum rates (pre 1991?).