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How will your life be better after Brexit?

538 replies

BertrandRussell · 18/09/2019 09:25

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AuldAlliance · 19/09/2019 09:28

Minimizing the likelihood of the UK breaking up NEGATIVE AGAIN. SCOTLAND IS MORE LIKELY TO STAY IN THE UNION IF WE LEAVE. YOU SHOULD DO YOUR RESEARCH IN THIS AREA

Could you provide your research on this?

Voila212 · 19/09/2019 09:36

I have been reading this post but didn't comment but I just want to correct one of thegrassisgreeners point. Ireland charges no tax on tampons and other sanitary products. In fact the European parliament called for all member states to not charge vat on sanitary products. So the vat charges are put on by each countries government.

BertrandRussell · 19/09/2019 09:37

Anyway. Back to how our lives will be better. Shall I add “we will be able to destroy our fish sticks”?

Incidentally, it’s I treating how people who support leave seem to focus on pretty niche and traditional industries, and that is reflected on this thread Fishing and fruit production, for example. No mention of benefits to high tech industries, or car manufActure....

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BertrandRussell · 19/09/2019 09:39

*fish stocks obviously.Grin

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jasjas1973 · 19/09/2019 09:39

A tactic used in the Indy ref was that Scotland would leave the EU with a leave result, so voting to remain within the UK ensured EU membership.

This has proved somewhat inaccurate.

Regardless of the GFA, NI is likely to want unification with the ROI, it would be a natural fit and will encourage Scotland to leave too, though that would prove more problematic.

jasjas1973 · 19/09/2019 09:45

Yes car manufacture... INEOS have announced it will build a 4x4 in Bridgend, well not really, all the technology is being done overseas -the engine is designed and built in Germany & Austria, the chassis in Portugal, so its an assembly plant.

But does the world really need another gas guzzling 4x4 ? especially as one of the leaders in this market, JLR is updating its LR Defender.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 19/09/2019 09:48

I rely on medication for asthma and neuropathy, i’m looking forward to getting lots of bed rest and having other people take over my caring responsibilities.

I’m also, as a Remainer looking forward to being blamed for everything going tits up, because no Brexiter I know is willing to take responsibility.

bellinisurge · 19/09/2019 09:49

NI is not likely to want (re) unification with ROI. GFA requires referenda on both sides of the border.
And no NHS. No emotional ties for a large section of NI population.
Not a foregone conclusion.

Voila212 · 19/09/2019 09:53

It would also have to be put to a vote in ROI and I don't know if it would pass. The further South you go the less likely people would vote for it.

AuldAlliance · 19/09/2019 09:56

I have done a tiny bit of research. Hoping to encourage Grass is Greener to do the same, as I'd still love to see their data on Brexit reducing the likelihood of Scottish independence, whenever they pop back to provide it.

This is a quote from a HoC research briefing on VAT on sanitary products (dated 08/07/19). It appears quite clear as to whose court the Tampon Tax ball is in.

^In January 2018 the European Commission finally published proposals to overhaul the EU rules on VAT rates – in effect, to reverse the current approach:

In addition to a standard VAT rate of minimum 15%, Member States would now be able to put in place:
    two separate reduced rates of between 5% and the standard rate chosen by the Member State;
    one exemption from VAT (or 'zero rate');
    one reduced rate set at between 0% and the reduced rates.
The current, complex list of goods and services to which reduced rates can be applied would be abolished and replaced by a new list of products (such as weapons, alcoholic beverages, gambling and tobacco) to which the standard rate of 15% or above would always be applied.
To safeguard public revenues, Member States will also have to ensure that the weighted average VAT rate is at least 12%.
The new regime also means that all goods currently enjoying rates different from the standard rate can continue to do so.[9]

There is no firm timetable for these proposals to be agreed, and there is considerable uncertainty as to their relevance for the UK’s discretion in setting VAT rates, given the outcome of the EU referendum and the Government’s decision in March 2017 to trigger Article 50 – the two-year period for the UK to leave the EU.[10]^

AuldAlliance · 19/09/2019 09:57

Italics fail.
Apologies...

Mistigri · 19/09/2019 10:00

I think grass took offence to us nasty woman having the temerity to argue back with facts and requests for evidence. And I don't think he liked the idea that you can tackle the man AND the ball at the same time. Women are supposed to be good at multitasking, after all.

TheElementsSong · 19/09/2019 10:06

Me personally, I was really impressed by the CAPS LOCK Grin

AuldAlliance · 19/09/2019 10:24

There's a weary whiff of déjà vu about this scenario, isn't there?

Appear on MN.
Shout opinions loudly. WITH CAPS LOCK ON TO DEMONSTRATE THEY ARE THE TRUTH.
Say the UK (probably meaning England) is great and if we all just set to with vim and vigour we can enjoy being freeee and fiiiiiine.
Receive request for data to support THE TRUTH.
Receive data contradicting THE TRUTH.
Vanish again.

Ohflippineck · 19/09/2019 10:25

Voila212

“... sanitary products. So the vat charges are put on by each countries government.”

La la la, they can’t hear you. Or won’t.

I say “forriners” because it reflects the mentality of many a Brexiteer. Rude? Oh pardon fucking me! You can screw up my kids’ futures with your I’ll-educated mob rule mentality, but I’m being rude?

The state this country is in is domestically driven. The EU has vastly improved our protections and quality of life and we will all live to bitterly regret that disastrous vote.

Empires are evil. Apart, apparently, from the great British empire Brexiteers hark back to. That’s bloody marvellous and what they aspire to. The good old days. Pathetic.

LaurieMarlow · 19/09/2019 10:29

Empires are evil. Apart, apparently, from the great British empire Brexiteers hark back to. That’s bloody marvellous

I think it’s ...

Empires that we are in sole charge of are marvellous. Empires that we have an equal say over along with Johnny Forringer are evil.

Peregrina · 19/09/2019 10:40

It's the first time that I have heard the desire to protect an International Peace Treaty shouted as NEGATIVE - WAR MONGERING.

Clearly BLACK IS WHITE, BECAUSE A BORED LEAVER SAYS SO.

It would be a funny statement, if the prospect of a Civil War breaking out again in part of the UK wasn't so serious. The GFA was a hard won Peace, which I am sure, is not perfect, but is still a million times better than 30 years of violence.

Ohflippineck · 19/09/2019 10:46

Hardline Brexiteers don’t give a flying flamingo for the GFA. Polls show they believe sacrificing NI is a price worth paying for their “sovereignty”.
Dolts. Leaving this thread, the degree of wilful misinterpretation and outright stupidity is beyond comprehension 🤪

Thegrasscouldbegreeener · 19/09/2019 11:15

Let us not forget that even in the face of genocide across the continent of Europe between 1939 and 1945, there were plenty at home who supported AH and, of course, hundreds of thousands who were perfectly happy to serve in and assist occupation forces across France, Germany, Finland and Italy.

So we shouldn't be at all surprised by the current conflict, nor that there is a small but very vocal minority prepared to undermine our own country and even our own government from within. (not looking at anyone in particular)

Thegrasscouldbegreeener · 19/09/2019 11:23

There will be a day in the future when you will not be owning up to being a remainer at all, your commitment to the EU Commission cause will be watered down to such a degree that one might even imagine you supported leave back in the day. Those that betray our country as you have done already, the damage you have caused, you will have to live with yourselves.

The vote to leave will be vindicated in the near future, you are on the wrong side of history. A grave mistake driven by the fear of change (and the EU brainwashing machine)
You will no doubt have cause for great regret in the future.

Ohflippineck · 19/09/2019 11:27

Thanks Vladimir. You tempted me back on. I’m sure we’re all quaking. 😂😂😂

bellinisurge · 19/09/2019 11:28

You can say that to yourself while you are trying to get hold of fresh fruit and veg at the same price as now. And tell other people who are also trying to do the same thing.

Thegrasscouldbegreeener · 19/09/2019 11:29

bellini You have well and truly swallowed project fear, poor you.

bellinisurge · 19/09/2019 11:30

I'm a general prepper. I don't give a shit.

Thegrasscouldbegreeener · 19/09/2019 11:31

oh You are an embarrassment only to yourself. Some of have standards, some of us have critical thinking skills, thank goodness for leavers hey.

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