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Westminstenders: It's like a bloody aviary

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RedToothBrush · 12/09/2019 20:40

From Flamingos to Yellowhammer and Black Swans.

The Tory Remainer is now a Dodo. Instead the party in inhabited by disaster capitalist Vultures. Jeremy Corbyn, meanwhile, has been labelled by the right wing press as a Chicken. The SNP would very much like Boris Johnson to be a Jailbird. The LDs are keen to sing like Canaries about the contents of BlackSwan. The Br

And the Tower of London is starting to get very jumpy about the whereabouts and location of its Ravens.

I would not, however, advise eating urban wild pigeons if things get desperate, from what I know of their health.

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squid4 · 15/09/2019 19:05

Has someone actually said they're going to do this double prorogation? Sorry if I missed that.

Basilpots · 15/09/2019 19:14

No Squid it was just suggested in a Telegraph piece as something that ‘could’ be done. Nobody has said it definitely will.

DarkAtEndOfUK · 15/09/2019 19:18

It's mentioned on the Brexit predictions thread with a link waitingfortax.com/2019/09/15/the-flaw-in-the-benn-act/
Hope the protests will gear up a notch if he tries that.

Perhaps we need all of our former prime ministers still talking to us - John Major, Tony Blair, and now the prize prat David Cameron, pref Theresa May as well - all on one platform at one protest saying that this is wrong. Perhaps the country would rally around all of them.

TheMShip · 15/09/2019 19:20

justmakeitstop.co.uk/

I like the concept, but the template letter is cringeworthy.

BigChocFrenzy · 15/09/2019 19:21

Tis but a rumour, but we need to be vigilant

This PM, this govt, have neither scruples nor shame

Jonathan Sumption: Boris Johnson “is putting forward ideas which are essentially those of a fanatic”

Sumption is, or at least was, a conservative, who wrote speeches for the late Keith Joseph

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/jonathan-sumption-boris-johnson-is-putting-forward-ideas-which-are-essentially-those-of-a-fanatic

The former Supreme Court judge says we are in a situation with no constitutional precedent
....
. The situation in his view has arisen.
“mainly because we adopted, on a question of really fundamental importance, a technique of decision-making - namely a referendum, which is purpose built to circumvent the political process.

We are therefore not in a very good position to complain that the political process isn’t working well!
Obviously it isn’t, and the reason is that MPs - who for the most part perfectly well understand the damaging consequences of withdrawing from the EU, especially without a deal - nevertheless still feel bound by the outcome.”

The mistake was to use a plebiscite in a parliamentary system.
< what I keep saying >
Two forms of democracy are competing and one is struggling to accommodate the other.

“That is the fundamental feature of the political situation: we are now in a conflict between two competing sources of legitimacy.”

All this means that MPs are “disabled from performing their proper function of deciding what is in the national interest.

But above all, they are disabled from performing the essential function of any political system,
which is to accommodate opposing interests and opinions, and arrive at a result which maybe would have been no one’s first choice, but which everybody can live with.”

DarkAtEndOfUK · 15/09/2019 19:27

...and Gordon Brown of course (sorry). The fact that all our past leaders still with us are against no-deal Brexit has to have some significance?

SegregateMumBev · 15/09/2019 19:40

Dunno. Liberal elites? Or seen as such?

DarkAtEndOfUK · 15/09/2019 19:46

Everything and everyone who says anything sensible is classed as a liberal elite. It would be worth a try I reckon, if anyone knows producers Smile or protest organisers Smile Smile. Anything is worth a try in these kind of times with these kind of stakes!!

RedToothBrush · 15/09/2019 19:47

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3693137-Westminstenders-Supreme-Democracy?watched=1
New thread

Right now time for me to catch up on posts from yesterday and today

(and no doubt regret starting the new thread before I'd done so)

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Icantreachthepretzels · 15/09/2019 19:54

I can't see David Cameron taking an actual public platform - even one shared with others. He would be rightly (but not literally) crucified by all sides. This. is. all. his. fault.

MockersthefeMANist · 16/09/2019 10:55

Those of you who reckon we are not a "flaggy nation" need to have a word with the unionists/loyalists over here.

Why? Do you think we want them?

The nonsense a while back about flying the flag over Belfast City Hall when no such flag would be seen on any British (sic) equivalent except on high days and holidays exemplifies the Unionist Paradox: The more they insist they are British, the more they demonstrate they are not.

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