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Dear Brussels...

243 replies

Miljah · 05/09/2019 23:04

Of course I know the EU's equivalent of Whitehall scrutinise what we say and do- possibly even MN!

But if you had their ear, what would you say?

I do understand that there is no complete, overriding consensus within the EU 'Parliament'!

But imagine you are addressing the EU MEPs.

What would you like to feel they should know?

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Camomila · 06/09/2019 08:55

Dear Brussels,

Is there anyway you can continue to help EU citizens living in the UK after Brexit? Or who end up 'going home' when they'd rather not?

Grazie.

Feduppluckingmychinhairs · 06/09/2019 11:30

Dear Brussels

As an Irish person I am eternally grateful that instead of shitting on the small guy you have stood by us. We will weather any storm but please help make sure we don't return to killings and slaughter again.

berlinbabylon · 06/09/2019 12:18

Can you please take the lead and suggest an NI only backstop as a solution to the current impasse as that option not yet been tested in UK parliament

Could you suggest that NI becomes a special economic zone? Or ask the UK "negotiators" if they've thought about looking at May's red lines again?

And if you agree to extend, make it about two years. We might have sorted out some sort of decent government by then.

DuckWillow · 06/09/2019 12:21

Dear Brussels,

I am beyond embarrassed by my Government.

It was fairly obvious from the start that this would not be “the easiest deal in history” but sadly too many people chose to stick their fingers in their ears and say “la la la” very loudly before muttering something about “project fear”. And even though “project fear” has turned out to be “project FACt” they STILL persist in the “fingers in their ears approach.

whyamidoingthis · 06/09/2019 12:38

Can you please take the lead and suggest an NI only backstop as a solution to the current impasse as that option not yet been tested in UK parliament

Could you suggest that NI becomes a special economic zone? Or ask the UK "negotiators" if they've thought about looking at May's red lines again?

And if you agree to extend, make it about two years. We might have sorted out some sort of decent government by then.

Problem with all this is the EU are being really careful not to interfere in British decision making. The EU have set out their red lines and are still waiting for the UK to decide what it wants. Maybe it's time to change that approach.

Dear Brussels

It's obvious that you are dealing with toddlers. Can you please put the UK into time-out so they can think about their behaviour? Can you then make some adult decisions for them and help them realise that unicorns don't exist? Maybe take the approach of giving them 2 choices so they think they made the decision themselves.

flouncyfanny · 06/09/2019 12:53

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Feduppluckingmychinhairs · 06/09/2019 13:31

Please do not abandon me.

Oh flouncyfanny Sad. That really made me feel for anyone caught up in this total and utter mess. I sincerely hope this works out with the least amount of misery possible.

HPFA · 06/09/2019 14:31

If so how does that avoid a border being installed between ROI and NI in accordance with EU law?

Dear Ms Mystery Trip,

The Irish government is now making plans to have customs checks, etc, as far as possible from the border as this is hoped to be only a temporary measure. Sadly, even this is likely to have an immensely harmful effect on NI businesses and perhaps the Peace Process, since clearly the EU is duty bound to secure its external borders.

However, given that the EU and Ireland had no control over the UK decsion to leave the Single Market and Customs Union and no control over their refusal to ratify the agreement offered to them in accordance with their own wishes and Red Lines I think that you, and any sane and reasonable person, will agree that there was absolutely f*ck all the EU could do to avoid this painful situation.

You know who to blame.

We would love to welcome you back some time

Yours

The EU

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/09/2019 14:50

This thread is making me irrationally sad.

Dear Eu

I’m one of the lucky escapees. I am now French.

Please look kindly on my compatriots who weren’t so lucky and let the U.K. rejoin with open arms rather than punish us for the folly, self interest and manipulation of rich predominantly white men. They’re the misogynists and xenophobes who’ve taken over the country and got so many to follow them.

Think of it as a milder version of the 1930’s which could go horribly wrong. We know from experience we are better together than at odds.

Fridakahlofan · 06/09/2019 14:51

Dear Brussels

I’m sorry for this mess. Please let us get this to a second referendum please please please!

Snowdrop30 · 06/09/2019 14:58

Thank you for understanding that the UK is not just England. The UK's ruling party appears to have forgotten this. Thank you for looking out for NI when no one else did. If Scotland does go independent, please support us. Its all rather scary right now - I think the UK government is being held hostage by a bunch of lying self-interested English Nationalists.

Leela96 · 06/09/2019 15:06

Dear EU,

Thanks for standing by Ireland. You at least understand the importance of the backstop . It's sad to see that the other party to the Good Friday agreement doesn't actually understand their obligations.

Keep up the good fight Smile

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/09/2019 15:09

This is how I feel:

It's not perfect, not everyone is going to get on all the time, but it's a noble thing. Peace and communication and freedom and human rights. All going to shit. Peace in Europe FFS. That's actually important. And worth much more than imaginary NHS money.

HPFA · 06/09/2019 16:16

boredofbrexit

You're going to love the next ten years then!

MindyStClaire · 06/09/2019 16:20

Dear Brussels

Thank you for protecting the Good Friday Agreement. I am more grateful than you could possibly know.

Yours,

MysteryTripAgain · 06/09/2019 16:26

Dear EU

Thanks for standing by Ireland. You at least understand the importance of the backstop . It's sad to see that the other party to the Good Friday agreement doesn't actually understand their obligations

To Leela96

Thank you for your time and letter. As both you and I know the English are not very clever. However, never tell them our secret that the real reason for the backstop is to; protect EU Single Market and EU customs revenue. Checks on goods that need to cross the existing invisible border can be done elsewhere, but again don't tell the English that.

If we both keep talking about the Good Friday Agreement we might be able to blackmail them emotionally into revoke of Article 50. If so then nobody might notice that the British Irish Council screwed up by not following their duties as described in the Good Friday Agreement with respect to how changes in EU policies may affect either North or South.

Might also be helpful if you can tell some of the other posters on MN not to acknowledge that the Good Friday Agreement is not in EU law or UK constitution. The English might do some research and discover that the Good Friday Agreement does not prevent them from leaving the EU.

So let's keep trying to fool them. They might be annoying and behave like toddlers at times, but they are the third largest donor to the EU and they have a large trade deficit with the EU.

Yours unsinscerely

Barmier
Junkyard
Macaroni
Rusks

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Don't let our secrets be laid bare for common usage

bellinisurge · 06/09/2019 16:36

Dear valued citizen
The GFA obviously doesn't prevent the UK from leaving the EU, despite your attempts to discredit this international agreement that your country has signed up to.

MysteryTripAgain · 06/09/2019 16:53

Dear valued citizen
The GFA obviously doesn't prevent the UK from leaving the EU, despite your attempts to discredit this international agreement that your country has signed up to

Dearest Bellinisurge

Thank you for taking the time to prepare your letter in between your many posts. How do you find the time? Some people are truly astonishing.

May I make the same recommendation as that to Leela96 which is not to acknowledge that GFA does not prevent the UK to leave the EU. The English might hear you and start to realize they are being bluffed.

Yours unfaithfully.

Ms Angelic Mackerel
Ms Charletini Pelostit

whyamidoingthis · 06/09/2019 17:17

Dear Disingenuous Blameshifter

In response to your letter, let me address some misunderstandings on your part:
Checks on goods that need to cross the existing invisible border can be done elsewhere, but again don't tell the English that.

Ireland and the EU will do whatever they can to minimise border checks as they, unlike you and your government, do actually care about peace and prosperity in NI. Unfortunately, your lack of understanding of all-island trade and cross-border cooperation has led to your simplistic suggestion. I suggest you do a little research before making such suggestions.

If so then nobody might notice that the British Irish Council screwed up by not following their duties as described in the Good Friday Agreement with respect to how changes in EU policies may affect either North or South.

Yes, you have a point here. The Irish, which given their history was a naive position, actually believed the UK had signed the GFA in good faith and not simply as a vehicle of convenience until it interfered with their ambitions. Certainly, the Irish could have shouted long and hard about UK perfidiousness and lack of good faith in the past, but they believed that, post-GFA we had moved on from all that. They believed the UK when they claimed the GFA was important to them. They believed the UK would show integrity, in the same way Ireland did in relation to Schengen. Once it became apparent that was not the case, they raised the issues.

I would also ask that you do not insult the many English people who actually care about NI and the GFA. It is insulting to suggest that they are too stupid to understand what is going on.

Your claims that the EU is only doing this to keep the UK in (to be honest, at this stage most of us just wish you would go) is probably as a result of the lack of integrity shown by certain, mainly English, people and institutions. Anyone with that lack of integrity cannot conceive of others putting principle before economic gain.

Yours Sincerely,

Appalled.

HerSymphonyAndSong · 06/09/2019 17:28

Dear Brussels
You will I am sure have received communications from my compatriots demonstrating their lack of understanding and contempt for the GFA. Please be assured that many of us understand the gravity of the situation and are grateful that you are standing firm against our government in your support for the people of the island of Ireland. We also understand that you are probably better off without us now, but please continue to recognise those of us who want to stay in the EU. Our own government ignores us and do not include us in the repeated phrase “Will of the people”, and are determined to use the referendum result as a vehicle for taking us into hard-right authoritarianism. I am very pessimistic about the future for this country.

bellinisurge · 06/09/2019 17:29

I thought it was the UK leaving the EU, not England.

HerSymphonyAndSong · 06/09/2019 17:31

You hear that in leaver soundbites on TV all the time - England this, England that.

whyamidoingthis · 06/09/2019 17:48

@bellinisurge - I thought it was the UK leaving the EU, not England.

I assumed it was a recognition of the superior intellect of those who are not little englanders. Note: not all english are little englanders, before anyone takes offence.

FrauFlamingo · 06/09/2019 18:05

Dear Members of the European Parliament,

Please do what our own government has signally failed to do over the past three years and protect the rights of British citizens living elsewhere in the EU.

Thanks to the arbitrary 15-year rule, a large number of us were given no say in the referendum, even though we are the ones most directly and negatively affected by the outcome.

We have built our family and working lives on the freedoms accorded us by EU membership and now stand to have these taken away and our lives severely disrupted without having any say in the matter.

Some of us, me included, will end up paying tax yet with no right to vote. This is a gross infringement of our democratic rights. "No taxation without representation", as I believe some wag once said while starting a revolution.

Brexiteers are fond of saying that the EU is undemocratic, indeed many cite it as their main reason for wanting to leave. If they are so keen to uphold democracy, how can they be content to take rights and freedoms away from their fellow citizens on the basis of a very slim majority in an advisory referendum in which the said fellow citizens were unable to vote?

Introduction of a Green Card system on the lines of that proposed by the lobby group New Europeans would be one way of remedying the situation.

Thank you,
Frau Flamingo

MysteryTripAgain · 06/09/2019 18:22

I thought it was the UK leaving the EU, not England

Dear Bellinisurge

Wow another letter! How did you find the time?

Yes it is UK that has voted to leave the EU as opposed to England as a member of the UK. But remember that England population is 5 times larger than; NI, Scotland and Wales combined. So the outcome of any national vote is very likely to follow the English mindset.

Yours humbly

EU

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