Westminstenders: Charge!!!!

[RedToothBrush]

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
“Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns!” he said.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

“Forward, the Light Brigade!”
Was there a man dismayed?
Not though the soldier knew
Someone had blundered.
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volleyed and thundered;
Stormed at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of hell
Rode the six hundred.

Flashed all their sabres bare,
Flashed as they turned in air
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army, while
All the world wondered.
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right through the line they broke;
Cossack and Russian
Reeled from the sabre stroke
Shattered and sundered.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volleyed and thundered;
Stormed at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell.
They that had fought so well
Came through the jaws of Death,
Back from the mouth of hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!

This is just business as usually for the Tories. They destroyed communities and industries in the 80s. There was civil unrest, they didn’t care. The housing crisis in this country is a direct result of Tory housing policy in the 80s. They don’t care as long as the rich and gullible continue to vote for them.

Remember we talked a gazillion number of threads back of the perception amongst some voters that "No Deal" = the Status Quo and the danger of putting No Deal as an option on to a PV (even if you set aside the morality of asking the populace if they want to deliberately break an International Peace Treat ) because of this erroneous belief

Added to that, some think that No Deal = "it will all be over" without realising that No , it's just start : a perception that has only grown in recent weeks, with the Government blithely talking about being prepared to No Deal Brexit and "being prepared"

Amber Rudd is saying no deal would be worse than leaving with a deal...

Ffs

The effect of a no deal Brexit on Science by grapene inventor Andre Geim.

www.newscientist.com/article/2213319-graphene-inventor-andre-geim-no-deal-brexit-would-destroy-uk-science/?utm_campaign=onesignal&utm_medium=alert&utm_source=editorial

PMK

OMG. I've just seen David Davis tweet something sensible and that I agree with!

No its not about Brexit!

I feel I must share this, wonderous moment.

David Davis @DavidDavisMP
This is yet another demonstration of the pressing need to regulate facial recognition tech. The use of this by private companies, with no clear oversight or accountability, is a serious intrusion on the privacy of citizens going about their everyday lives.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7352031/Privacy-campaigners-slam-Kings-Cross-facial-recognition-cameras.html

It is time @ukhomeoffice brought proposals to Parliament to regulate this technology and set proper standards of use, both for the private sector and police forces up and down the country.

head explodes

I completely disagree that the UK should not be offering support to the people of Hong Kong. As with the Good Friday agreement we were signatories to an agreement, one which remember promised to move to universal suffrage however vaguely, not away from it (and until Xi's hardline regime, previous rulers have been happy with that vague fudge) As Chris Patten says we should be doing the good thing standing up for common values not the greedy self seeking thing, which will win us no respect or trading benefit from China anyway. The educated elite in China have traditionally stood up for society when a ruler is seen to be failing it, often at great cost to themselves, it happened under Mao, it happened at Tiananmen, and that is what is happening in Hong Kong. The people who are marching are students, academics, lawyers, health workers, civil servants and other professionals, all share a common belief in the unique identity of Hong Kong society an identity forged in a the Basic Law and the two systems, one country model. It is those protesters who deserve endorsement and support.

Obviously not the tone deaf step of Raab ringing Lam which just riled China. Lam is just an empty cypher now, the demonstrators are only targeting her because they know the Chinese government will not / cannot tolerate direct challenge and the Chinese government in turn are hiding behind Lam because they are caught in a bind. They need rule of law in Hong Kong to sustain its position in their economy but at the same time they cannot tolerate such open dissent, and have only done so so far because of the economic risk and because this is an educated elite performing their traditional duty, using traditional methods, they may be calling them Lennon walls for instance but these are exact copies of the democracy walls that sprung up across China prior to Tiananmen. The slogan "Be water" is after a traditional Chinese saying often invoked that "Water flows where water should" manifesting organic systems of justice. At Tiananmen the government tolerated and even listened to the student protests initially, they only acted when blue collar workers started to join in. They will be furious with Lam because the extradition law pushed things too far too quickly.

They are hoping to wear protest down by infiltrating the Hong Kong Police with less disciplined mainlanders, and embarking on far more aggressive policing tactics, employing triad gangs from the Mainland, rounding up innocent people and making life for residents on peaceful estates hard for them. That will fail, Hong Kong society is made up of three groups, Hong Kong Chinese, many of whom are mobile internationally and have overseas passports, 300,000 Canadian for instance, which is why Trudeau has spoken up, Chinese people who fled China during Mao's time and the Cantonese who flow freely around the region making Lo Wu and other border points the busiest on earth. Only the latter group feel any sort of mainland Chinese identity, but that is Cantonese first and Chinese second, and they are not politically active, they just want to continue to benefit from economic success . I have seen Mandarin speakers spat at in the markets, and just the mere fact that Police and gang members have been heard speaking of Mandarin by police and gang members has provoked widespread outrage

Trump has already highlighted to the Chinese government that trade with Hong Kong can be undermined by Chinese government actions (though more than likely part of his general aggressive stance on trade with China) . The UK still has a significant role in the Hong Kong economy and most people engaged in it would like to see the UK able in spite of being weakened by its own political upheavals, taking steps to leverage that economic position to support the unique identity of Hong Kong and protect its ability to do business in the context of rule of law (as opposed to rule by law as in China ). It is in our economic interests as well as the right thing to do. Though the way Cathay has caved in to mainland blackmail demonstrates that they have no faith our weakened government will do so.

How is this going to go if we have no deal? Will this be sorted out by then? Or will there be other areas, where if we have a similar problem, we will have a massive issue cos importing will be significantly harder?

And why on earth do we have this problem in the first place???

www.hsj.co.uk/policy-and-regulation/exclusive-nhse-declares-emergency-over-iv-shortage/7025746.article#.XVLcoKro110.twitter
Exclusive: NHSE declares emergency over IV shortage

The shortage of intravenous feed supplies affecting hundreds of patients across the country has been declared a national emergency incident by NHS leaders.

The situation is so serious the NHS is considering importing supplies from other countries to meet the needs of patients who depend on the feed for survival.

Patients whose bodies can no longer digest normal food are reliant on intravenous feed known as total parenteral nutrition, or TPN. Some are already enduring long waits for deliveries of their prescriptions.

HSJ has spoken with some patients who have gone several days with no feed at all after restrictions were imposed on the manufacturer, Calea, by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency last month. Several patients, including one child, have been admitted to hospital because they were effectively being starved of vital nutrients.

Hospitals have been asked to review all their patients receiving IV feed to ensure only those deemed at high risk are allocated scarce supplies. These are being allocated to NHS trusts by a national incident management team on a “non-negotiable” basis.

Hundreds of other patients are being moved to what are known as ‘off the shelf’ bags of feed which could lead to patients needing hospital admission because the bags lack essential vitamins and minerals and may not meet their specific requirements, which varies between patients.

National patient safety director Aidan Fowler has written to all NHS trusts, clinicians and affected patients warning the disruption is likely to last longer than expected.

Re Davies' tweet. There is oversight. It's called GDPR and it applies to facial recognition technology. For fuck's sake.

How is this going to go if we have no deal? Will this be sorted out by then? Or will there be other areas, where if we have a similar problem, we will have a massive issue cos importing will be significantly harder?

Given my experiences over the past 2 years, and the fact that everyone fingered by the previous fingeree says it's "not their problem" and passes the buck along, I'd not hold out much hope.

I wonder how much money Boris is going to bung coroners courts (or suspend them) to prevent narrative verdicts blaming the current Brexit shitshow ?

*Since age 5

What is this referring to?

^Aunt Olive
@HelpfulOlive
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Priti Patel has played a blinder. I think it’s marvellous that healthcare assistants, hospital porters, waiting staff, baristas, fruit pickers, hotel maids and catering staff will be on £36k.^

Quck

Patel has decided that for immigration you need an annual income of £36K to come to fUK

In effect, she’s just set a minimum wage for skilled jobs.

Except that she set it to a rate that many business would not recognise (engineers and architects don’t make 36k in London for the first few years...). Fuck business, then

@cherin. Well, at least she is being consistent with the Governments message.

If there is a GE in the near future, how do the conservatives propose to fund it, after the "fuck business" policy? At least Corbyn has listened to the unions and they are sticking by him.

...and I used to think that Tories were the party of business, silly me!
It’s only me struggling to keep up, or what?
:-D

and I used to think that Tories were the party of business, silly me

Bozo is hoping business will find Corbyn more scary than the Tories. He’s probably right.

Thanks. Well interesting, either I will get a payrise then or immigrants will not do those jobs as I know my workplace can't afford that!

Christopher Hope@christopherhope
The Brexit battle royale is about to begin. Tomorrow's @Telegraph splash

John Bercow has said that he would refuse to let Boris Johnson take Britain out of the EU by suspending Parliament.

The Commons Speaker said he would fight any attempt to prorogue Parliament "with every bone in my body".

He also said that MPs can stop Britain leaving without a deal at the end of October, putting him on a collision course with Mr Johnson’s chief strategist Dominic Cummings.

And he dismissed suggestions that he will stand down in the short term as Speaker.

Bercow: "The one thing I feel strongly about is that the House of Commons must have its way. If there is an attempt to circumvent, to bypass or - God forbid! - to close down Parliament; that is anathema to me and I will fight it with every bone in my body to stop that happening."

Bercow: "We cannot have a situation in which Parliament is shut down - we are a democratic society. And Parliament will be heard and nobody is going to get away as far as I am concerned with stopping that happening.”

As the event in Edinburgh's New Town ended, an audience member shouted at him over the applause "can Parliament stop a no deal Brexit?", the Speaker replied: "Yes."

It's all going to kick off this Autumn folks. #Brexit #October31

Good old Bercow!

I've said for a while that September, post-recess is when it gets interesting (bearing in mind fuck all happened pre-recess!).

Shame I don't have any more sick leave so I can sit and watch it happen! 😂

What will we trade with the U.S. in this temporary deal? Buy drugs, orange and beef, sell whiskey, Ribena and lamb?

Bercow can only safeguard Parliamentary process; if MPs don't do their job, then he is helpless:

Several reports that Tory rebels are refusing to back a VonC until all other means of stopping No Deal have been exhausted.
imo, they will almost certainly miscalculate when this time has been reached - I'd say it is now !

Too many MPs including some Labour ones - are more afraid of Corbyn being PM than of No Deal

I am (obviously !) no fan of Corbyn, but his worst is a lot better than No Deal, especially carried out by Tory Brexshit fanatics

RNorth analyses gloomy reports from MPs indicating that No Deal cannot be stopped.

http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87329

'we seem to be getting indications that a number of Tory rebels are privately admitted that their attempts to overturn the referendum result have failed.
One is reported to have said:
"I have to admit it. It's over. I don't want to be part of it all".

Additionally, a group of independent and Labour MPs are also saying that they are unlikely to back a confidence vote against Johnson, for fear of putting Corbyn in Downing Street.

A senior Labour MP is also said to have claimed that "at least 10" of their colleagues would also vote with the government.

This somewhat changes the calculus, indicating that Johnson could go through to 31 October with his current majority of one, taking us out of the EU without a deal and without having gone for a general election.

Ironically, this is possibly the worst possible outcome for Johnson.
He needs to go to the country before the adverse effects of a no-deal become apparent,
and losing a vote of no confidence is the best chance he has of doing this.

The very last thing the man wants is to be stuck in office with his slender majority while the economy starts to crumble around him.'

Well, this MP: "I have to admit it. It's over. I don't want to be part of it all", is very much part of it all if they don't buck their ideas up and at least bloody try to do something. Defeatist idiot.