No deal Brexit - more prepared than we think?

[elprup]

I posted a thread on here recently about being terrified of a no deal Brexit. Since then I’ve felt a little bit reassured after reading this article about how Britain is preparing/prepared for a no deal. Sorry in advance for the Daily Mail link!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7318477/So-does-No-Deal-Brexit-really-mean.html

It does sound like we’re more together than I’d thought (although I may just be wishful thinking, hopelessly naive, clutching at straws or all of the above!)

What are people’s thoughts?

[Mamamia456]

Bellingsurge - I think you must be in the minority then, most remainers on here only want to believe information that fits in to their own agenda or just want to hurl insults at leavers.

[bellinisurge]

@Mamamia456 , nope. It's vice versa. I'm on these threads all the time and have been for months. Leavers are given a fair hearing but if they descend into bollocks, they get the puss ripped out of them.
Leave posters on here are rarely up for compromise and most are No Dealers. No Dealers can fuck off. I have no desire to listen to their nonsense.

[Mamamia456]

Well I think some of the remainers on these threads talk bollocks so we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

[PrincessMargaret]

I used to work in customs clearance in Dover and lost my job along with many others in 1992. I still know a few people in these jobs. They are not at all prepared and think it will be a clusterfuck of epic proportions. Dover was at a stand still at the start of the school holidays. Levels of traffic have increased hugely in the last 25+ years. The infrastructure CANNOT cope. See Operation Stack everytime there is an issue. It stops people getting to work.

[SistemaAddict]

Tut tut @PrincessMargaret they just need to BeLeave more! Honestly, it will all be fine if they just THINK POSITIVE

[Oakmaiden]

Stockpiling at this stage makes no difference to anyone except the person doing it. As there are no shortages, and everything is ticking on as normal. What will be awful (and will happen) is that once we KNOW there is going to be no deal and it will happen at any moment, people will go and empty the shelves of bread/pasta etc. And stuff anyone else who might be hungry.

[jasjas1973]

Justin King is very wealthy, he can hop onto his private jet and live in France or wherever.
The idea he would stockpile is ridiculous.

Brexit will not affect these folk, whether they are leave or remain.

[jasjas1973]

I think some of the remainers on these threads talk bollocks

Rich coming from a nasty idiot like you.

[Mamamia456]

Jasjas1973 - now now, play nicely.

[Socksontheradiator]

So it seems we are being told by experts that shelves could well be empty shortly after a disorderly exit, whilst simultaneously being warned against stockpiling.
Is this some strange attempt to reduce the possibility of panic buying, but also laying the ground for a 'you were warned' in the case of people who got no buffer in, going hungry?
@Mamamia456, I'm not sure I understand why you would not stockpile if the likes of Justin King are predicting empty shelves. Do you not believe that he could be right? I appreciate that you don't worry about things that are out of your control, but planning ahead a bit is something that is within your control, so i find it hard to understand why you would not.

[jasjas1973]

We crossed swords on another thread, your complete lack of empathy toward my niece, a young girl very worried about dying, showed me what you are.

[Mamamia456]

Socksontheradiator - To be honest I have always had a freezer full of food and plenty of food and other stuff in the house anyway, my husband never likes to run out of anything! I don't think there's anything wrong with people stockpiling. I was just quoting what Justin King said.

[Mamamia456]

Jasjas1973 - If you go back and read my posts on that other thread I think you`ll find that I didn't say anything nasty about your neice and that I was trying to calm people who were panicking. None of my posts were deleted whereas one of yours was and it wasn't me who reported it, so obviously someone else thought your post was offensive.

[Clavinova]

MyOtherProfile
I'm not reassured at all. Look at this link of our trade deals for post Brexit. Almost none are in place, most are still under discussion and we are not in a strong bargaining place.

Nonsense - there are two pages to the government's update - link from your link;

"The UK has signed continuity trade agreements with non-EU countries so that trade can continue with minimal disruption after the UK leaves the EU."

"These countries account for 64% of trade currently covered by EU agreements for which the UK is seeking continuity."

"The agreements have replicated the EU trade agreements as far as possible";

www.gov.uk/guidance/signed-uk-trade-agreements-transitioned-from-the-eu

[SistemaAddict]

Minimal disruption dear Clav, minimal. Not the same as no disruption and everything carrying on as it was.

[SistemaAddict]

The agreements have replicated the EU trade agreements as far as possible. However, there may be some changes to ensure that new agreements work for both countries.

^"As far as possible. However there may be some changes."
^
Some people really need to learn to comprehend what is being said rather than what appears to be being said. There's a works of difference.

[MyOtherProfile]

What Bercows said. It's far from reassuring.

[TwistyTop]

I'm well prepared - I emigrated.

Not really sure how else one can confidently say that they are adequately prepared..? Sounds like it's going to be a total fucking disaster.

[bellinisurge]

@TwistyTop , I'm a general prepper. I am as prepared my budget, space and common sense allow. I am also prepared to expect the unexpected. Having MS kind of teaches you that.

[TwistyTop]

bellinisurge good for you. I really don't see why people are being so sneery about stockpiling resources for Brexit. If you have the space then what's the harm? Even if everyone is wrong and it's all champagne and rainbows from here, you still have a good stockpile of food for a rainy day. There is no benefit to taking the risk of not stockpiling. You have nothing to gain and a lot to lose.

As it happens I also have resources stockpiled - the country I moved to suffers from seasonal monsoons and floods so this makes me feel more secure. My stash gets used every flood season. I think anyone with a bit of common sense has a stash of emergency supplies. Nobody ever really knows what's coming.

[TheElementsSong]

I really don't see why people are being so sneery about stockpiling resources for Brexit.

I think it's something like this...

If you buy extra stuff because it's on offer and you're a thrifty person who is generally careful with money, no problem.

If you buy extra stuff because there might be bad weather coming and you've been snowed in before, no problem.

If you buy extra stuff because you're an old-fashioned organised sort who likes a well-stocked pantry and like menu-planning and batch-cooking, no problem. (See exhibit A upthread).

If you buy extra stuff because you're concerned about supply chain disruption in the wake of a No Deal crash-out Brexit, YOUR NEGATIVE THINKING WILL MAKE A BREXIT FAIRY DIE!!!!

[Clavinova]

As far as possible.However there may be some changes.

Who says the changes won't be for our benefit? The problem with negotiating a trade deal for 28 countries means that certain products and services will be protected in other EU countries - preventing the UK from buying those products at a cheaper price - that's why tariffs are such a mishmash.

[Jason118]

How on earth would we get better deals with a much smaller population and nothing to offer in exchange? Delusion is getting worse as we approach the cliff.

[Janista]

Thank heavens for a sane post.

No deal Brexit won't be any issue - a few odd disruptions but that's it.

It suits remainers to say the sky will fall in however, hysteria is ramped up hugely right now, it's like the death of Diana all over again .

[Clavinova]

How on earth would we get better deals with a much smaller population and nothing to offer in exchange?

Well, Tunisia has a population of nearly 11.5 million - about the same size as Belgium, Greece, Portugal, Sweden individually... We agreed a partnership deal with Mexico yesterday - population 129 million and India for example, is set to be "the home to roughly two thirds of the global middle-class."