Do you judge people on how they voted?

[Rock4please]

Just that really. I used to have an open mind on meeting somebody new but, if I discover that they voted leave, I am not interested in furthering the relationship. Similarly, with Americans, I don’t want to associate with anyone who supports Trump.

Am I being unfair and narrow minded or do you judge new people in a similar way?

People had every right to choose to leave the EU

and we've got every right to think them assholes, no?

I'm with @Helmetbymidnight on this.

agree totally with @Spinnaret about the selfishness and hypocrisy of many who voted out and retained EU passports etc or the post which mentioned people who had already paid off mortgages. They selfishly took away the rights of others and made things far more uncertain for younger generations.

That is what makes me cross with leavers they voted to take a lot away from people whether it's their rights or stability and they then complain when the 'remoaners' are upset.

If/when I find out someone voted to Leave I always ask them why.

Reasons I've been given are along the lines of....

For the fishermen
For the NHS
Because I was confused
To make Britain great again

I don't judge people who say 1, 2 or 3.
I very much judge people who say anything resembling 4 and I usually respond with "What, like when people had rickets, outside loos and Britain "ruled" the world by invading other countries".

Rock4please - No it really doesn't bother me how people vote, people have all sorts of weird and wonderful reasons for voting. I hardly ever hear people talking about Brexit in real life. I know some family members voted leave and some voted remain, but none of us have fallen out. Life's too short.

I judge them yes but haven't stopped taking to them. The Brexit voting family members who crowed about it a year ago have gone strangely silent now they know they aren't getting their unicorns or indeed more money for the NHS. Stupid fucks.

A bit, yeah. It was fairly obvious that leave would be a 'breasts vertical' type situation. But it doesn't stop me being friends with them. It stops me bringing it up at family events though, because lovely friend voting leave because, erm, is different from racist uncle who likes seeing me staying quiet but visibly unhappy. Benefit of recent family breach is I never have to see that fucker again.

I literally don't understand people judging. Or saying they wouldn't be friends anymore.

If those of you have dumped friends because they were leave voters, are they extremist leave voters? Eg idiots who hate foreigners, in which case why were you friends before?

The vote was pretty even. Roughly 50% voted each way.
Are you saying you don't want to be friends with 1/2 the uk voting population?

Some of those who voted were extremists. Most weren't. Done we're just lied to, misguided, or not aware.

Are you angry with them?
I'm angry with politicians. Particularly Cameron.

There never should have been a referendum.

I don’t judge people on how they voted no, but I do sometimes judge them for why they voted the way they did - especially people who had never bothered voting at all before, never showed any interest in politics or even the news and didn’t make any effort to learn what the EU really is or does before voting.

If those of you have dumped friends because they were leave voters, are they extremist leave voters? Eg idiots who hate foreigners, in which case why were you friends before?

I think pre referendum it was not always apparent that seemingly nice people held such views. The referendum has certainly allowed more extreme views to surface in the same way as it has in the US with Trump.

Yes i would judge, especially when (in my experience) its down to " wanting rid of the immigrants" or words to that effect. I would also silently judge people who voted leave without doing any research or reading into what that might mean, or who spouted the need to "get rid of EU red tape and take back control of our country" without being able to back that up with examples or facts.

I was very struck by something I read a few months back about us all banding together through any struggles to come and the Blitz spirit etc. The response was "what do you think the atmosphere would have been like in the air raid shelters if half of the people had voted for the Blitz and half hadn't?" Sums it up for me.
I'm also not above hoping that some of the more rabid leave voters are the first to feel the pinch of any food/medicine shortages or drops in income.

If those of you have dumped friends because they were leave voters, are they extremist leave voters? Eg idiots who hate foreigners, in which case why were you friends before?

Because pre-referendum, I didn't know some of my friends were two-faced hypocritical arseholes. Once I discovered that, it made the friendships pretty hard to sustain. I have not specifically told them 'you're not my friend any more', just gave up on visits and quietly let it slide.

I always knew my father was a bigoted narcisstic racist bully. He used to be more discreet about it. Brexit has given him the confidence to be open about it. I do not want to be associated with that, thanks. He is dependent on many medications that may be become hard to come by. I find it hard to remotely care a jot. He voted for it, he can live or die with the consequences of his decision.

And yes, I am angry with politicians too. Cameron was at a theatre show I went to about 18 months ago. If he hadn't been surrounded by flunkies, I may well have done something stupid.

Are you saying you don't want to be friends with 1/2 the uk voting population?

Not voting population but people who voted on the Referendum.
And yes.

Sometimes with the Leave voters it showed you a side of them that you didn't realise they had.

Sometimes with the Leave voters it showed you a side of them that you didn't realise they had.

Agree. We have neighbours who we’ve known for 17 years. They run their own business have a second home in France. We’d meet 3 or 4 times a year to go out for a meal, we liked them a lot.
They voted Leave specifically because 6 months before the Referendum, they went to a town about 20 miles away, and everyone was speaking Polish.

No fortunately we live in a free country

Rock4please - agree with you. If I meet someone new and find out they are a leaver I would not want to progress the friendship any further.
Unless of course they could give me a very valid reason why (like Lweji, nothing so far)

None of my friends voted leave but I’m still friendly with (and in some cases family with) people I already knew who voted leave eg my hairdresser who is lovely. We do have to avoid ever mentioning Brexit though! I wouldn’t want to fall out with someone about it but I certainly would think a bit less of them if I found out they voted leave.

Well what an interesting thread! I am a Tory leave voting Scot who can't stand Trump. I find FOM in itself racist and want an immigration system in this country which is much more equal to everyone from where ever they are from in the world.
It's very interesting to find how many left leaning people abhor Tories and think for some unknown reason we have a completely different moral compass and absolutely no compassion for the poor and disadvantaged. Oddly I am very concerned with the wellbeing of everyone no matter where they are from.
I haven't ostracized my SD for her left leaning views or the left wing councillor on the same committee I am chair of. I really don't understand why would anyone would do that.
I was unfriended by an SNP MSP after the Scottish referendum but hay ho!

*Some of those who voted were extremists. Most weren't. Done we're just lied to, misguided, or not aware.

Are you angry with them?
I'm angry with politicians. Particularly Cameron.

There never should have been a referendum.*

I agree generally, but I’m hacked off at people who were lied to, misguided and still parrot “we knew what we were voting for” when they didn’t. No one did! No one knew that we’d end up in this shitshow 3 years later! And then blame remainers, the EU, everyone except themselves for their vote which led to this disaster

I think we have really worrying times ahead and these divisions are going to get a lot worse after Brexit. Imagine you're working in a car production plant, factory moves because of Brexit, you lose your job and then your home, half your friends, colleagues and family voted for this.

I find this all just amazing when so many of you think it's fine to discriminate against people in this way.
You might have asked O.P. if people would stay friends with others of a different faith! Try Muslim for instance - now do you all see how ridiculous this is?

Of course you should make decisions about people based on how they voted. It's something they thought about, then did. It's not going to be the only, or even the most important thing to consider, but saying you shouldn't judge someone on their voting record is ridiculous. Same with not voting.

Try Muslim for instance - now do you all see how ridiculous this is?

At least one of the Leave voters I know voted because she was anti-Muslim, and didn't look behind the Leave headlines or Farage's propaganda of Turkey joining the EU any time now.

As we have said repeatedly on these threads, Theresa May and Cameron before her could easily have made an immigration policy much more friendly to the rest of the world. Instead of kicking out bona-fide students because of one firm had a corrupt language test, or refusing visas to much needed overseas doctors and airily telling them to re-apply under the next quota.