To be terrified of no deal Brexit

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Having just watched the headlines, it really does seem that Boris is hellbent on taking us out with no deal. The fact he’s thrown down the gauntlet to the EU stating that he won’t come to the table unless they drop the backstop - well of course they’re not going to do that, and Boris won’t back down, so we will be leaving with no deal.

What do you think will be the repercussions of this? I’m terrified I’m going to lose my job and my home. If I’m worried then I can’t imagine what people reliant on various meds are going through.

I think I might stop watching the news as it just makes me anxious.

Cherry Pavlova - I have only ever been given a month's supply of drugs. In my area you are not allowed to put in for a repeat prescription until the week before your current one runs out, and I have always been given different brands, long before the referendum. The same with chemists, I've had to go to diferent ones to try and get prescriptions or wait for my drugs to be ordered, again long before the referendum.

Same here, and that is why there are concerns about post no deal. If there is a bit of a shortage now, do you think No Deal will improve the situation or might it get worse?
If you're not anxious that's grand, but you can't blame others for being so.

Don't know if this helps but I'm Scandinavian, we have some kind of disruption in delivery of certain drugs, too.

Unnecessary and unhelpful to suggest that this phenomenon is due to Brexit

Experts in Pharma say that whilst you are correct and there have been shortages before, this time around they are caused by stockpiling, ordered by the Govt and its not only drugs, its med equipment too.

Hancock wouldn't have ordered an EU warehouse in Frankfurt and a charter plane on standby if everything was hunkydory.

Part of the 6 billion earmarked for no-deal prep is to ensure medical supplies are not interrupted, again, if all was good, it wouldn't be required.

Socksontheradiator - I can't control other people's fear but I am cerrtainly not going to add to it by scaremongering. If the government and businesses are preparing for no deal scenarios then that is a good thing.

Scaremongering for no good reason: not good.
People are still active lobbying for a revoke or a decent deal though.
If finding out what no deal really could cause gets a few more people actively complaining, that is a goodt
We know that much of the leave campaign was built on lies. May be that it's too late now, but people need to know what their vote meant.

*campaigning

Scaremongering is horrible, taking advantage of people who are sick and worried for no reason.

Remainers peddling no deal falsehoods and panicking poorly people is despicable.

Project fear again. Amazing that 3 years after the vote there are still many who think it should be reversed. Leave was a surprise result that I would not have bet on, but it happened. Time wasted under T May. So BJ has stated no deal as not enough time left to revisit the WA.

There's 'scaremongering' and then there's preparing for the potential downsides of Brexit, none of which will affect Janista because they live on the other side of the world.

As for people talking about 'project fear' - you can stick your tired rhetoric where the sun doesn't shine. I'm sick of meaningless slogans.

I think there's a lot of scaremongering as well. Stockpiling biscuits and gin and freezing eggs? All produced in the UK. I can understand being more worried if you're on meds but the uk is a net exporter of pharmaceuticals and there are already plans in place. I think this sort of behaviour just creates shortages which creates panic and leads to more shortages. Anyone remember the bread strikes in the 1970s?

Remainers peddling no deal falsehoods and panicking poorly people is despicable

Leavers peddling hope/belief as fact is equally despicable

No deal will be seriously grim for months if not years, pretending it won't be is either wilful ignorance or malicious gaming of the system

@Frankiestein402 it's not about pretending it will all be fine but being sensible and realistic. Someone linked to a government document listing the "downsides of brexit" and number 1 on the list was consumer panic! People really are whipping themselves up into an unnecessary frenzy.

@Shill2016 "You must have otherwise you would not be able to post?"

Yes, but many people's grandparents didn't.

Nice to see that you think hundreds of thousands of deaths is a laughing matter. Pretty much sums up the Quitling shills on here.

If No Deal is such a wonderful prospect and anyone who is worrying about it is "peddling hysteria and myths", why has the chancellor just set aside a budget of £2 billion to mitigate the effects of No Deal?

£2 billion they couldn't find for welfare, or disabled people, or schools, or the NHS (£350 m a week anyone??? No?) or to mitigate the need for foodbanks, or to help build affordable housing.

But they've suddenly magicked it up out of their arse for absolutely no reason at all.

Fuck right off.

Frankenstein402 - Now you're doing the same. You don't know for a fact that it will be grim. It may be or it may not be. You can't say for certain because none of us know.

Remainers peddling no deal falsehoods and panicking poorly people is despicable

Its the Govt, you know the pro brexit one we've got now, that is doing the so called scare mongering, £6 billion set aside to mitigate the supply issues and it was Matt Hancock, our health minister, who said he could not rule out deaths in a no-deal brexit.

I'd go back to the barbie if i were you as you haven't a fucking clue what your talking about.

Also, those pooh poohing No Deal being bad as project fear, how do you explain the leaked Whitehall document detailing the plans for the first day, week and month post No Deal and the issues that will arise?

Medication shortages, food supply issues, trouble in EU/UK waters between ships, civil unrest in NI, lack of access for UK ships to shipping channels controlled by the EU.

That's the fucking government saying those things. You know, those people you're so confident were telling the truth about the land of milk and honey post Brexit?

They're not remainers, they're the government, the ones absolutely set on No Deal.

Even they're shitting it.

So how exactly do you explain that one?

After 10 years of austerity it is odd that government can find money when it suits. Money to buy DUP, £1.5 Billion I remember, and now £2.1 Billion to ease the impacts of a no deal.

If no deal does happen I think government should consider abandoning the HS2 project. That will save an estimated £98 Billion according to JRM. Maybe chop a bit off the foreign aid budget too.

Then there is money to help the UK to get over a no deal shock to the system.

If no deal does happen I think government should consider abandoning the HS2 project. That will save an estimated £98 Billion according to JRM.

Yes, abandoning HS2 would be a good move. Apparently one of the people Boris is working with on transport is very anti HS2 (Andrew Gilligan I think). Isn't it currently under a six-week review?

Peddling no deal falsehoods?
I don't see panic on these threads. I see people trying to get an understanding of how things might be, and calmly preparing for it as best they can while encouraging people to do the same. That is a lot less risky than loudly shouting that everything will be fine.

I don't see panic on these threads.

That's because you haven't kept up to date with New Brexitannian English.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3653528-Brexitannian-NewSpeak-Dictionary-WIP

PANIC : taking gradual action, in July, for an event in November (see also: DELUDED, HYSTERICAL, PARANOID LUNATIC).

Of course 😀

People really are whipping themselves up into an unnecessary frenzy.
No-one is in a frenzy. No-one is whipping themselves up into anything. They are buying a few extra tins and loo rolls. Why does that bother you?