To be terrified of no deal Brexit

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Having just watched the headlines, it really does seem that Boris is hellbent on taking us out with no deal. The fact he’s thrown down the gauntlet to the EU stating that he won’t come to the table unless they drop the backstop - well of course they’re not going to do that, and Boris won’t back down, so we will be leaving with no deal.

What do you think will be the repercussions of this? I’m terrified I’m going to lose my job and my home. If I’m worried then I can’t imagine what people reliant on various meds are going through.

I think I might stop watching the news as it just makes me anxious.

I think the major decline started at the start of the WW1

Wow. As far back as 100 years ago.

Justaboutdone - Who's saying you've got to eat chlorinated chicken?

So @Tullow2016 , my Brexit solution which is an alternative to No Deal and still gets Brexit? No? I thought your main argument against it was that it would encourage separation of the Union. Which you then said was up to the constituent parts after Brexit.
I have offered a solution. You've just offered the same old tripe.

You might not have a choice: one of the areas that has been taken away from the devolved administrations is food labelling, perceived to be in preparation for a US trade deal.

So any mention of "country of origin" or how it was processed may be removed from the packaging to stop people boycotting them

Why do you think that there is such an emphasis in the US on finding "grass fed" (strange concept that ) beef and butter?: it's their proxy for being able to establish quality. God knows what the proxy would be for chicken over here. So unless you want to pay for organic or free range chicken (including in processed food), you wouldn't know

@Tullow2016
Completely wrong re life expectancies in US and EU
www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/u-s-life-expectancy-compare-countries/#item-start

Completely wrong re life expectancies in US and EU

I remember. Zero key was hit by error as next to 9 key

Perhaps if Prime ministers were more varied in education and background

Similar to what I said previously. Since late 60s that I can remember, many UK PMs from Oxford, private schools or well off family. In some examples all three at same time.

Nobody can choose the background they were born from. That’s where life is a lottery.

However, a PM who is from all three at same time will never see the world in the same way as average person in the street.

I follow my Father's maxim, don't waste time on worrying about things you cannot change.

I follow my Father's maxim, don't waste time on worrying about things you cannot change

My grandparents said same. However, the flip side is that those who were prepared to try and change things benefited many?

Then go ahead @Tullow2016 , what are you suggesting to get Brexit but stop No Deal?

Since late 60s that I can remember, many UK PMs from Oxford, private schools or well off family. In some examples all three at same time.

Margaret Thatcher may have gone to Oxford, but she came from a very "normal" background.

John Major's family weren't wealthy either and he didn't go to uni as far as I'm aware.

Pretty bird - Where have you read that? I was of the understanding that if we left with a no deal then any food produced in the UK for the UK Market would still say produced in the UK, but if it had added ingredients from the EU that would have to say UK and non UK rather than EU. I am sure that products would still have their country of origin on them like they do now.

products would still have their country of origin on them like they do now

How confident are you that will still be true for any US trade deal - I'd expect the US to insist on exemption from most labelling rules in order to 'hide' chlorinated chicken and gm derived foodstuffs.

It's the EU that has given us solid standards in this space and the brexit logic is to make a 'bonfire' of these.

Earlier the idea that we have a trade deal imminent with Australia was po ho ed mainly because of distance and the idea that we should concentrate on trade with our nearest neighbours.
Just to let you know, the distance thing is blown out of the water when we look at China. 7% of our imports come from there as apposed to 6.4% from France!
Also we export 18.2% of our goods to the USA the highest amount to any single country and have a trade surplice with them and that's without even a trade deal.

Frankenstein402 - If you look at the guidelines for food labelling after Brexit on the Government's website, it says that any food produced for the UK Market will have to have the address of manufacture on it. Most meat in our supermarkets is produced in the UK anyway. I am certainly not going to worry about chicken coming from America.

Ironically enough, it is because the US has just lost a WTO case about labelling country of origin on meat from Canada and Mexico (both in the NAFTA free trade area) that it might insist on no country of origin labelling on a free trade agreement with the UK.

We also can't assume that any current EU labelling regulations will continue.

I wouldn't buy any meat product that didn't have the country of origin on, but I only buy British meat anyway.

DT99

We don't import perishables from China, if a bike or a phone takes 6 weeks to ship to europe it doesn't matter.

Also, we export approx 50% to the EU, a market that will become significantly smaller post brexit, which is why £500m is set aside to buy lamb, japan may take an extra 3% of the stuff, can't the Aussies buying any lol!

A FTA with Australia will mean what exactly? Aus has a massive Asian market on its doorstep and the wording is "could" be done within months, not will.

Have you read the Sky Govt leaked documents on what a no-deal brexit will mean to the UK ?

news.sky.com/story/uk-faces-potential-consumer-panic-and-security-gaps-under-no-deal-brexit-says-government-document-11775217

This from a govt that in no way can be called a remainer one.

I absolutely detest this fucking idiotic "we survived two World wars" bullshit. Hundreds of thousands of us didn't survive those wars. Anyone spouting that facetious crap doesn't deserve to be treated like anything other than a traitorous Russian bot.

Cunts

Jasjas - what has perishables got to do with it?
Australia exports to us Gold, Alcohol, Lead and Pearls and gems in that order of importance.
We have a surplice with them and export to them Cars, Medicines, Alcohol and books.

Have you read the Sky Govt leaked documents on what a no-deal brexit will mean to the UK?

The link says;

"It was shown to some cabinet members but not the whole cabinet and is understood not to have been "agreed" by ministers. It is marked: "For Discussion - Not Government Policy"."

Only one or two cabinet ministers read it then - before it was leaked to Sky...

"UK vessels could no longer have access to EU waters and vice versa". ???

"The slide was prepared in the final weeks of then-prime minister Theresa May's time in office." - so not the current cabinet.