To be terrified of no deal Brexit

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Having just watched the headlines, it really does seem that Boris is hellbent on taking us out with no deal. The fact he’s thrown down the gauntlet to the EU stating that he won’t come to the table unless they drop the backstop - well of course they’re not going to do that, and Boris won’t back down, so we will be leaving with no deal.

What do you think will be the repercussions of this? I’m terrified I’m going to lose my job and my home. If I’m worried then I can’t imagine what people reliant on various meds are going through.

I think I might stop watching the news as it just makes me anxious.

Nice to see the hysteria continues.

We don't even have a trade deal with the US or China but trade hugely with them without issues.

Some posters here are stoking panic as if we are going into a siege, Bank’s will fail, planes won't fly, food won't arrive.

Just lunacy.

Yes Janista but as a PP has already noted the issue is with perishable goods like isotopes for cancer treatment which we get from the EU and fresh food which we import from the EU.

We don't rely on Aus or China for either of these things...it doesn't matter if Australian wine is delayed by extra customs checks at the border does it?

There is absolutely no way cancer drugs are going to be delayed and it's absolutely disgusting for people to be floating this idea to try and manipulate people's fears and opinions to try and stop brexit .

Hundreds of thousands of us didn't survive those wars

You must have otherwise you would not be able to post?

Also we export 18.2% of our goods to the USA the highest amount to any single country and have a trade surplice with them and that's without even a trade deal

Precisely. Seem to remember that UK buy New Zealand Lamb?

This from a govt that in no way can be called a remainer one

More UK MPs voted remain than leave

@bellinisurge

So I take it you still believe in democracy? Whatever happens is already going to happen, regardless. That is why we all need to be prepared to adapt to the conditions we face rather than waste time playing politics.

@CountyCork2016

Of course they did, most want a nice high paid job in the EU after their UK political career is over.

@VikVal, as a prepper, Bellinisurge is encouraging people do do precisely that.

We trade with China and the US on WTO terms as members of the EU. That is why it is so simple at the moment. On leaving the EU, we will need to negotiate terms with them in our own right. That is the way I understand it, anyway.

Can we assume that we can absolutely and definitely get hold of cancer drugs, purely because it's too horrible to contemplate going without?
That's an enormous amount of trust to put in leaders who have proved themselves ignorant and untrustworthy.

Yes, there are very serious concerns about the ongoing availability of drugs. There are already some shortages and indications are these are going to worsen. Repeat prescriptions are already being affected. We have some stockpiles but these aren’t of all drugs and aren’t necessarily sufficient.

And Janista continues to use the word ‘We’ from the other side of the world.

‘We’ May be affected by drugs shortages. She won’t.

@Cherrypavlova, sorry, my question was sarcastic and directed at janisita. I agree with you!

Yes, from the Independent last year. *Jeremy Hunt has admitted that British patients may find it difficult to get EU cancer drugs if Brexit talks break down, describing the risk as “uniquely damaging”.

The Health Secretary was being pushed for details of his department’s preparations for the event of a “no deal” scenario, which could cause major disruption to the supply of life-saving medications and see more pharmaceuticals companies shift operations to the EU.*

Tullow odds 13/4 for revoke, not fabulous , but worth a punt if you can afford to lose your stake. That's an online bet, I did wonder about going into a shop and seeing what the odds would be for a more specific bet like - Boris will revoke Art 50 before 1st of November 2019, but I am less confident that he will still be PM at that date.

daisypond - That interview was last year, and he says may not will. So companies may have difficulty with supplies or they may not. There are contingency plans being put in place in the event of no deal. I am reliant on life saving drugs and I am not worried. Why worry about something that may or may not happen.

Cherry Pavlova - what shortages of drugs are there and which repeat prescriptions are bring affected?

In some areas repeat prescriptions of things like certain brands of combined pill, some antibiotics such as Ciprofloxacin (used frequently in prostatitis) and acetylcysteine infusion used for overdosage of paracetamol are already limited. People may find they are only given a months supply of certain drugs or that the brand/ drug has been changed.
It might be that some people on Beta Blockers no longer get the sustained release version but get the immediate impact version so blood pressure is slightly less well controlled.
I wouldn’t want to start a panic but there are shortages and these are expected to increase but action is being taken to mitigate the most serious risks.

@Mamamia456, there has been a lot of anecdotal evidence of people needing to go to 2 or 3 pharmacies to find one that has what they need in stock.
My DH is also on life saving meds. He is generally a calm sort and not a worrier with a what will be
will be attitude. He's maintained that outwardly so far, but it is quite unnerving.
Contingency plans are being put in place, but it won't be plain sailing.
As a remainer, I am furious that we have been put in this position when it was all working perfectly well before.
Leavers seem too busy justifying their stance to properly look at how it could potentially impact on us all

If you’re not worried, that’s your prerogative. I’m sure the government has proved itself entirely competent, reliable and organised to sort it all out for you.

I used to work in the NHS and there have always been times when there were shortages of certain drugs - this was 20 odd years ago. Unnecessary and unhelpful to suggest that this phenomenon is due to Brexit.

@Middle, the way I see it is that current shortages may not be caused by Brexit. However unless the drugs have not made it to the pharmacies because they are being secretly stashed as part of ND prep, it does not bode well for post Brexit, if, as seems likely, there are supply chain disruptions.