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To be terrified of no deal Brexit

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elprup · 29/07/2019 22:29

Having just watched the headlines, it really does seem that Boris is hellbent on taking us out with no deal. The fact he’s thrown down the gauntlet to the EU stating that he won’t come to the table unless they drop the backstop - well of course they’re not going to do that, and Boris won’t back down, so we will be leaving with no deal.

What do you think will be the repercussions of this? I’m terrified I’m going to lose my job and my home. If I’m worried then I can’t imagine what people reliant on various meds are going through.

I think I might stop watching the news as it just makes me anxious.

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Miljah · 29/07/2019 22:34

Sadly, it is a clusterfuck of epic proportions.

I suspect, strongly, that given not many years ahead, 'we' (Leavers) will look back on the collective madness we got sucked into with the same incredulity we view our Diana hysteria.

What were we thinking? What are we thinking?

Peregrina · 29/07/2019 23:11

I am very grateful for the long list someone posted on the prepping thread. I intend to print it off and start stocking up seriously. Fortunately I can afford to do that. I am also glad that neither me nor DH is dependent on medication - I wish I could say that for DB, BIL and MIL.

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elprup · 29/07/2019 23:14

I miss TM - when we were stuck in limbo with what seemed like no prospect of getting out. At least we were still in! But it’s really going to happen now, isn’t it?

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tobee · 29/07/2019 23:14

Can you do a link please @Peregrina?

LizzieSiddal · 29/07/2019 23:18

It’s a cluster fuck of epic proportions.

I’m so angry that we’ve been put into this situation by lying politicians one of them is now PM, and most of the others are in his cabinet. How the heck did this happen?

NoWordForFluffy · 29/07/2019 23:23

@tobee, see this thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3531338-show-me-your-brexit-stockpiles-cont

Peregrina · 29/07/2019 23:27

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3649892-the-brexit-cupboard-share-your-tips

You will need to scroll down a bit, for a very comprehensive list.

lovelyupnorth · 29/07/2019 23:33

Luckily we sold our home and are renting. Jobs wise we lost a lot of work straight after the referendum and have changed direction to one which may thrive in the cluster fuck that’s coming. Our other business has no debt and could close down change etc.

Personally I’d like to leave and move elsewhere in the world by my OH less so.

Our DC already have dual-nationality if they need it.

Did contemplate staying in Canada where we are on holiday 😂😂.

I think it’s batten down the hatches time, cut spending and build our cash reserve further.

How anyone thinks Brexit is a good idea is beyond me. At least my Brexit voting in-laws have now seen sense when they’ve seen the GDs change nationality to keep the advantages of being European.

tobee · 29/07/2019 23:52

Thank you @NoWordForFluffy and @Peregrina. A public service announcement Grin

TooHotToHandld · 30/07/2019 00:16

I'm insulin dependent and very worried. All my insulin, test strips, insulin pump and supplies are from Europe, so death is a very real prospect for me (and other type 1 diabetics) 😞

raskolnikova · 30/07/2019 00:31

I've been living in Europe, but had to return to the UK recently (but really didn't want to). I want to go back again in the future, but it looks like I'm going to lose all my rights with a no deal Brexit, and in return gain... nothing Confused

And what really upsets me is that it' my own country taking my rights away, not the one where I was living Sad. Like you I have to avoid watching the news for my own sanity.

Janista · 30/07/2019 00:42

I can't wait for a no deal Brexit.

There is so much handwringing and scaremongering going on at the moment.

People do not need to be scared of dying or prevented from living and working in European countries if they wish.

hadthesnip2 · 30/07/2019 01:03

Well said @Janista.

You wont lose your home or your job & things will carry on just as before.

raskolnikova · 30/07/2019 01:24

People could well still live and work in the EU, but the process will be more difficult, bureaucratic and expensive than it is now. And for what? What do UK citizens in the EU, or EU citizens in the UK, or UK citizens in the UK, have to gain from a no deal Brexit exactly?

Janista · 30/07/2019 03:16

People act like no one travelled or worked abroad or managed before we were in the EU. It's laughable.

Stop moaning and catastrophising and live your life.

No one's opportunities are being spoilt.

The EU does not exist to help the individual.

Tullow2016 · 30/07/2019 03:24

Both sides, leave and remain, have exaggerated their arguments. No deal is not the best outcome, but at same time I can't convince myself that millions will die in the process due to lack of; food, water, medications, etc. The UK was meant to plunge into recession just by voting to leave in 2016, but it never happened.

Likewise I can't convince myself that UK will be hugely better off. At present UK is 5th largest economy of the World (hard to believe, but that is the figure). Countries like; USA, China, Japan and soon India will always have bigger economies due to their populations. So even if UK can pass both France and German economy in future they would still be in 5th place in the World which is where we are now.

Even JRM has estimated that it will take 50 years. Imagine that many on MN will not be around then?

lovelyupnorth · 30/07/2019 03:39

As leave cost my company over £100k per year I beg to differ.

bellinisurge · 30/07/2019 06:07

Janista lives in Australia so none of this will directly affect them.

timeforakinderworld · 30/07/2019 06:24

People act like no one travelled or worked abroad or managed before we were in the EU. It's laughable.
But we aren't going back to the 70s . The world is different now. It's not easy or often possible to move to another country to work. As someone who lives in Australia you should know that.

timeforakinderworld · 30/07/2019 06:26

You wont lose your home or your job & things will carry on just as before.
But people will lose their jobs. This isn't even controversial. We know people will lose their jobs.

Bookworm4 · 30/07/2019 06:28

Really people are ‘terrified’? I don’t think civilisation is coming to an end🙄

Peregrina · 30/07/2019 06:29

Janista lives in Australia so none of this will directly affect them.

Always the way!

MammaBot211 · 30/07/2019 06:30

Well what did you think was going yo happen? He is doing what May failed to do and honour the Referendum results.

TheBigBallOfOil · 30/07/2019 06:37

Janista is not thinking this through. Yes, these things happened before we were in the EU. But then we joined, and spent 40 years building our arrangements on the basis of membership. So things changed and dependencies were introduced. That is the problem. We are not going to be magically transported to a position as if we’d never been members.
Honestly!

CherryPavlova · 30/07/2019 06:48

Janista I currently have five staff seconded into DH to plan for Brexit.

There are already significant drug shortages and that is increasing. Not rare drugs but things like the pull. Repeat prescriptions are already being affected in some areas.
There is a predicted shortage of water treatment chemicals, so our drinking water is likely to be affected.
Prices are likely to rise significantly. That will affect individuals but also public services.
The military are being prepared for civil unrest.
All might indeed be well but come a crash out without a deal then International trading laws will affect our position with tariffs being imposed immediately on goods between UK and Europe.
People will lose their jobs.