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Westminstenders: Prime Minister Johnson

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RedToothBrush · 23/07/2019 22:58

It is actually happening.

By 5pm tomorrow Johnson should be Prime Minister, if nothing major goes wrong for him.

Phillip Hammond is expected to resign early in the morning. And there maybe others.

Parliament goes into recess on Thursday. Giving Johnson only enough time to announce a Cabinet and maybe give a brief statement in Parliament.

As it stands Johnson will have an effective majority of 1 if the Brecon by-election goes the way expected next week.

Unless someone else defects. Which isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

We also have Charlie Elphicke now suspended and facing a court appearance on 6th September, just 3 days after Parliament returns after the summer recess.

Remember when parliament returns Johnson must get a Queen's Speech vote to pass to start the new session.

The return of Parliament is 8 weeks before 31st October.

If Johnson can't pass a Queen's Speech... Is there time for a GE before 31st October? By the skin of our teeth? Or a crucial recall petition?

So for all the talk that parliament can we prevented from being prorogued or that we can get a deal by the 31st October, there is a GE shaped problem.

As for Johnson's plan for Brexit. Don't expect to see him say anything but waffly bollocks before that key Queens Speech vote. He can't. Instead expect lots of domestic promises - in part to distract, in part in prep for a possible snap election.

Of course to have an extension the Prime Minister needs to ask for it. Would a GE be enough to get one? And would we be granted one?

On the flip to that is the prospect of May's Deal. Much has been made of its death. But some have said its premature to say that. At the eleventh hour should the situation arise would parliament vote for it, backstop and all, to prevent no deal? Its not beyond the realms of possibility.

All the talk of Johnson driving a change of direction by the force of personality is nonsense. Johnson can use his personality domestically for support, but he his personality offers nothing to the EU.

On top of this all we have the Iran Oil Tanker Crisis. The US were alleged to have set us up, and now told us to look after our own tankers. Leaving us to look to Europe for international security cooperation in the area... Irony isn't lost.

Let us see what tomorrow might bring though...

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RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 17:45

Deliberate

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horseshit · 24/07/2019 17:47

Here we go...

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Somerville · 24/07/2019 17:47

twitter.com/carolinenokes/status/1154063940013494275?s=20

Noakes heard about her sakcing from journalist on Twitter by the sound of it.

prettybird · 24/07/2019 17:48

What was it that Tusk said when the UK got its 2nd extension?

"Please don't waste it"

Hmm

I think his opinion of BJ was accurately expressed in his earlier quote (I think after the 1st extension, "There is a special place in hell for those that promoted Brexit without even the sketch of a plan"

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 17:49

Norman Smith @bbcnormans
Feels to me Boris is going for broke. Full Gung Ho go for it and Brexit by October 31st... Big Play. #reshuffle

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MockerstheFeManist · 24/07/2019 17:50

Moggster at Work and Pensions? (Well, work. No more pensions. Get back down the mine.)

McVey Minister for women and putting them down the mines.

Francois for Foreign Secretary. He has a foriegn name and will shout at them in English.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 17:51

Theo Usherwood @theousherwood
Boris Johnson’s decision to appoint former Vote Leave campaign staffers to key Number 10 positions and sack those cabinet ministers who have questioned his October 31st Brexit deadline make it pretty clear that he is putting the Tory party on an election footing.

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SistemaAddict · 24/07/2019 17:51

I loved Tusk's tweet. I really wish he was our PM.

What's this shit about a new and better deal? Another PM who thinks what the rest of the EU have said about the WA doesn't matter. Good luck with that one Boris.

Sostenueto · 24/07/2019 17:52

Brokenshire gone too! Talk about night of the long pricks! ( knives). Seems even being loyal to Boris the Animal has no reward........

prettybird · 24/07/2019 17:55

Fluffy Mundell gone too. Despite his craven sycophancy towards BJ once he saw the writing on the wall.

MockerstheFeManist · 24/07/2019 17:57

All those who welcomed our new insect overlords look like being first to host the parasite larvae.

horseshit · 24/07/2019 17:57

Jeremy Wright gone too

Iambuffy · 24/07/2019 17:57

Please please please no cabinet post for bridgen. I don't think i could bear it

DGRossetti · 24/07/2019 17:58

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Iambuffy · 24/07/2019 17:58

Anyone else notice the "we will have the £39 billion if we no deal" bit??

Iambuffy · 24/07/2019 17:59

Love it DG!

Justaboutdone · 24/07/2019 17:59

Going to be a lot of angry tories?

And with a majority of 2 he can’t really afford for any to rebel.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 18:00

So far the Mail on Sunday has been fairly spot on.

They had Rishi Sunak (not Mogg) for no2 at the Treasury.

Amber Rudd Deputy PM.

Gove to Housing and NI, but also hedged bets with the return of Michael Fallon to NI.

Patel was also definitely on the cards.

Mordaunt was mentioned as going to be Home Secretary which obviously hasn't happened.

They don't seem to have put anyone forward for foreign sec though.

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CrunchyCarrot · 24/07/2019 18:01

Yes IamBuffy - that got me shouting at the TV! Angry

OublietteBravo · 24/07/2019 18:01

Going to be a lot of angry tories?

And with a majority of 2 he can’t really afford for any to rebel.

When exactly is the last possible moment for a VoNC before the summer recess?

horseshit · 24/07/2019 18:01

Hunt is officially out, too. How many mildly competent Tories does he have left to pick from?

Iambuffy · 24/07/2019 18:03

I'm still waiting for one of the spineless fuckers to put forward a vonc.

Of course hammond et al can just retire to the back benches now.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 18:04

And with a majority of 2 he can’t really afford for any to rebel.

I repeat he's proving its my way or a GE. He is testing rebels to see if they will cross the floor by declaring 'if you do, I'm ready and I'm going to fight this'. He thinks he can win and he's going for a vote leave strategy which did work.

He thinks he can get a majority.

The real threat to this plan is perhaps not that he can't win a GE, but whether he can survive a decapitation strategy in his own constituency. Which I fully anticipate will happen.

Tbh, if I was trying to logic this out, I'm not sure if Johnson has any other alternative such is the risk of a GE.

Not sure we should be that surprised...

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RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 18:05

Raab foreign sec.

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MockerstheFeManist · 24/07/2019 18:06

....And congrats from Putin, after he finally managed to stop pissing himself laughing.

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