All threads in brexit seem to anti brexit? Mn is usually balanced... Were are pro b threads?

[Knittedjimmychoos]

Looking for some lighter brexit relief by fellow leavers... Every thread I've glanced at seems to be dominated by renainers?

Is there any space for leaver on here?

Just interested... I wanted to chat...

There are a couple of important things here.
Firstly it is a FACT that the UK will not get a better deal from the EU than EU members. Rates may be a percentage point or two lower but it will never be equal or better.
Secondly, countries that the UK might deal with in future, if they are also dealing like for like (commodity) with the EU can not offer better deals to the UK (WTO rules).
The USA will not negotiate in a realistic manner if the GFA is broken.
So far, there have been no credible reports that the UK will be better off than it is now and although numbers vary, all show a negative.
The good news before Clavinova piles in with waffle, is that the UK has announces some deals with Central America (Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama). Before anyone gets too excited, consider what trade we do there and it's value, and the fact they are all a long way from the UK. A different story completely from fresh salad from Europe.

But there are things we know.....
Also can predict....
But once Brexit is done we have lots of uni owns that will appear....

Adding the word economic Infront of forecast changes it's meaning.
But there are lots of budgets still involved in the forecasts ..
How much grain you plant, depends on how much money you can use....which leads to how many people you can feed, to how many houses you need .increasing your budget increases food...ect.
But the money comes from another budget which effects the schools , which follows through into skilled labour, which effects output, and labour rates, standard of living happiness, output, need for open spaces, an endless chain of butterfly effects.

Blimey mummmy that last post is the biggest load of twaddle I think I’ve ever read.

Ok Bear how do you decide how many children you have?

The OBR, like Mark Carney at the BoE, suffer from predicting the worst so that the Government (in the OBR's case), and the BoE can take actions to mitigate against the projections - so that the worst doesn't happen.

In the BoE's case, they implemented a programme of Quantitative Easing (the modern equivalent of printing money) after the Referendum to mitigate against the drop in the pound.

Heaven knows what the Government will do to mitigate the most recent OBR forecasts

Ok Bear how do you decide how many children you have?

Unfortunately I know you really are saying that you think people decide how many children to have based on their budget so I’ll pose a few questions to you

• should poor people never have children?
• should rich people reproduce endlessly?
• what should people who can’t have or don’t want children do?

I didn’t think your arguments could sink any lower but they have

That it is not just if you can afford them, but also if you want them, and the economics impact....

I think some people are a different species to me, baffled doesn't come close.

Knittedjimmychoos

Looking for some lighter brexit relief by fellow leavers... Every thread I've glanced at seems to be dominated by renainers?

Is there any space for leaver on here?

Just interested... I wanted to chat...

mummmy2017

Of course people can chat, but the ground rules for normal conversation are that unless you are totally stoned or pissed, the discussion should be truthful.
If you come on a public 'chat' board spouting lies and complete bollocks, of course you will be shot down.

I could post that the UK government is planning to give every man, woman and child in the UL £10,000 to spend to boost the economy.
It would be a lie to begin with, and more astute readers would tell me that overall it would not help the UK economy.
Many of the Brexit threads contain hypotheses about what the government could do. Some will pull these points apart, or others may support it. That is how conversation works. If you keep posting crap that is easily disproved, don't wonder that you get called out on it.

UL=UK

I don't really get the crystal ball thing , there are people who have been agitating to leave the EU for many years, surely during this time, they should have come up with a plan ?
Not a wish list, a real executable plan on how the UK would leave the EU with least amount of fuss and nonsense. A plan that you would hope would not leave the UK significantly worse off.
Three years on from getting their greatest wish granted and we are left with

1. No deal.
2. Signing the WA and hoping to get a half decent deal at some point in the far flung future.
3. Sacking the whole thing off and remaining.

How can we control our borders if we don't put them up everywhere?
This was one of the selling points of Leave, so they really need to be consistent on this.

Except of course for many Leavers 'Control our borders' was a euphemism for being anti-immigration - a bit like Trump's 'Make America Great Again' was really 'Make America White Again'.

There are many other treads you could post on.
Why can't we just have one that you don't post on.....

{There are many other treads you could post on.
Why can't we just have one that you don't post on.....}

When 'leavers' STOP TELLING LIES that would be good. If you wish to spread untruths, either discuss footwear or dresses or whatever, you can then do as you wish. Brexit is going to cause a lot of misery, and in many cases already has.

Then go chat on one that does not offend you....or join a political one.. this is MN..

Well, this thread is certainly providing me with light relief, and that's without even having Remainer money or a new penis to play with

@mummmy2017 would love it if people didn't ask her/him questions.

I wasn't sure who mummmy was getting at - but maybe she should take her own advice and find a nice chat thread somewhere to talk about whatever takes her fancy, but not Brexit.

Mummy would love it if people stopped pretending that this is anything more than a chatroom.
One for a country that won't be an EU member in less than 100 days.

Where will we be then, after 100 days, where are we going, specifically?

We were think we are owed a party...

Organise the party yourself if you are 'owed' one.

mummmy2017
Your fantasy world of 'it will be fine' is NOT going to happen.
In reality, the government will 'mess up' and medication will arrive late, and people will suffer. Some will probably die as a result of 'incompetence' by the UK government.
How many would be an acceptable number to you? 1, 10, 100, 1000?
This is the reality of the chaos that you are wanting the UK to descend into. Are you happy with this?
What are you going to say to friends or neighbours who will lose their jobs. How are you going to persuade them that it all for a 'better' world?
There is very little that is 'funny' about Brexit, lives and livelihoods are going to be lost. When the UK leaves, life will not be continuing as usual, a whole range aspects of 'normal' life will be taken away from everyone.