Westminstenders: It couldn't get any worse... Until today

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We are trapped in the tailspin of the end of the UK. Firmly headed downward and getting more and more frenzied and desperate.

Even the most sensible of types like David Allen Green have finally noticed that Brexit isn't about leaving the EU it's about the frenzied and wilful destruction of our state instutions and structure. The collapse of the civil service, of our justice system, our democratic institutions and social order. All in the name of rule Britannia, a warped sense of taking back control to preserve an ideal that never existed and an idea of sovereignity that simply was a fantasy.

We move ever closer to Johnson becoming Prime Minister and a life under President Trump.

Joy.

Ode to Joy really isn't that bad.

Also I find this comment really interesting as it's something I've puzzled about why Faragists etc are voting for their own suffering ...

They want revenge for the class system

It has always seemed to me that the Turkeys vote for a Trump Christmas in the US because of the American dream. Trump is the manifestation of the poverty trapped American's aspiration.

Our equivalent of Trump is not Wetherspoon or Dyson. Because of our class system -at a subconscious level our American dream aspiration is entertwined with royalty and aristocracy. So many of the poor Brexiteers still admire old Etonians like Rees Mogg and Johnson. Our American dream is to inherit a pile.So I'm not sure it's revenge for the class system- it's more wanting some veneer of the class system to be applied to them.

I can't quite figure it out but the unholy alliance between victims of austerity and the people who exacerbated it, is no coincidence. Our class system is at least a causative factor.

They don't want the actual US. I suspect they are very hazy on the details and would not like to see Buckingham Palace turned into condos or a massive luxury hotel. They identify with current elements of its brand.

In between the toffs and the poor are layers of middle class people. People who have university degrees, civil servants, people who speak grammatical English. These are the people blue collar Brexit voters despise. Then there are the older Brexit voters who like the idea of the death penalty, national service, and mobilisation of youth to pick farm produce, paint over graffiti, etc.

The genius of Jacob Rees Mogg is to create a persona that appeals to people who are never going to be asked to tea chez Mogg.

Singing thanks for the extra info.

You would have hoped there could be police in both places, but cutbacks.

It's not as if the Sodem people were in a quiet, out of the way backwater.

Yes there's a sort of bloody minded passive aggressive
" I know my place" from some of those who feel left behind like my FiL. This means that the JRMs still get respect whilst those in the middle tier are reviled.

Math I just had a horror vision of Buckingham Palace turned into a Trump Hotel. Golf course instead of garden parties anymore? (I'm not even a royalist).

I just had a horror vision of Buckingham Palace turned into a Trump Hotel.

Didn't realise the plans had been released yet. Wait till you see what he has planned for Windsor Castle. It's bigly epic.

This is going to sound slightly vapid ... but as we go further down the yellow brick road to the US I've been thinking sod it - let's just accept that is what the ruling minority of Foxes and Faragists want.

So I've been pondering something minor ...Its actually the law that under US Federal Statute (36 US Code § 301) when the US national
anthem plays we must face the flag and stand at attention with the right hand over the heart.

So assuming we will be obliged to start this naff activity if you are curvaceous do you put your hand on your lower rib cage beneath your bra line or up
by your collar bone? Asking for a friend.

Lonely
American ladies aren't all known for being as skinny as a rake, just copy them.
I would hazard that is one of the least of the issues.

Yes I know it's not the most important issue- I just feel a bit 'if you can't beat them join em' today.

Thought I'd sort of fake my new country allegiance until I make it iyswim. I'm gonna (see what I did there) start practising.

Farage calls for anyone anti Brexit to be removed from the civil service and the military. If that's not fascism then I'm not sure what is. Apologies if posted already.

www.indy100.com/article/nigel-farage-brexit-civil-service-military-lbc-kim-darroch-9000151

lonely
If that comes to pass I shall just grab my tit and hope for best.
It's hard for those of us "blessed" with huge norks.

When, not if, Buffy, ** but your solution is pretty much the conclusion I'd come to during my practice whilst cooking earlier. 🇺🇸

The future:

The Economist @TheEconomist
According to the UN the chance of a 15-year-old boy dying by the age of 50 is now higher in America than in Bangladesh

According to the UN the chance of a 15-year-old boy dying by the age of 50 is now higher in America than in Bangladesh

Yup it's hardly any wonder with:

•40 mill below the poverty line plus
•the millions of bankruptcies due to health care Plus
•permitted unhealthy food additives and
•the pharma prescription drug addiction crisis.

But at least they die happy knowing they didn't agree any food and drug standards with their trading partners.

Farage calls for anyone anti Brexit to be removed from the civil service and the military. If that's not fascism then I'm not sure what is

I have long thought that this is only a matter of time... then of course, the Govt of the day can trawl back through FB and other social media to find out who has been opposing the "Will of the People"

Some might scoff at this but Farage could be our PM within the year and tech makes finding out who writes what v.v. easy.

I never thought i'd live to see the day that our own govt would plan to shrink the economy, where EU citizens would be leaving the UK out of fear, that an american govt would dictate who is our ambassador & that our future PM would condone this.

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I never thought i'd live to see the day that our own govt would plan to shrink the economy, where EU citizens would be leaving the UK out of fear, that an american govt would dictate who is our ambassador & that our future PM would condone this.^

Sadly my DF steadfastly refuses to believe it wasn't impossible. The more my late DM insisted it couldn't happen here "because we're British", the more he said she had made his point.

I'm just clinging on to the hope that these far right thinkers will spur more people into opposing them. But that relies on cohesion and moderation.

"Farage calls for anyone anti Brexit to be removed from the civil service and the military. If that's not fascism then I'm not sure what is"

Good luck finding anyone to replace our office staff if that's the plan😂. Maybe he could get some immigrants to do it.

So much for Tories being likely to support a vote of No confidence. Falling over themselves to curry favour with Johnson and go for a
hard Brexit

I only hope that a GE comes soon and that Rudd and Johnson both lose their seats, and that the Tory party destroys itself.

I don't think I have ever seen such expensively educated people stoop to such stupidity as they now want to do. Scared of Corbyn FFS!

The Special Relationship Brexiters fantasise about hasn't existed for decades - if it ever did exist

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/how-uk-fell-out-step-dc/593692/?

Whatever happened to the special relationship?

It’s not so much Britain that has changed, but Washington

Most members of Parliament think that American foreign policy is still made the same way it was when "special relationship" was coined by Winston Churchill.
.....
In this chaotic and unregimented Washington,
the Trump administration has ushered in a pay-to-play system,
and television and Twitter drive the conversation.

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has her own Israel policy,
Facebook its own China policy,
and Jared Kushner is fixing the Middle East.

Here the United Kingdom has slipped far behind the close ties of the special relationship
- the real one, that is, between the United States and Israel.

Neither is the United Kingdom the superpower’s tightest economic partner - a role filled by Canada -
and in the tightness of its security ties to the United States, it is now being overtaken by France.

The United Kingdom’s problems are much bigger than some leaked cables, or the abrupt resignation of its ambassador.

Britain needs to learn from the other countries that now have closer, more special ties with the United States,
and not assume that the mechanisms of yesterday are delivering what tomorrow requires.
....
Time and shifting demographics have produced a less Anglo America;

White House staffers and congressmen may have stronger emotional ties to countries such as Ireland or Israel than to Britain

Amber Rudd is such a self-serving twat. I'm sick of politicians like her.

Has anyone else been messaged by Leaver friends about the Naylor Review today? Had an odd private message from my leaver vegetarian retiree today about it - was a video by a Mat Mayor if anyone is interested - about the selling off of NHS buildings and asset stripping. I pointed out that this was one of the main concerns in the healthcare profession about Brexit and that unfortunately it wasn't just the NHS this would be happening to... Not much in the way of a reply.

•40 mill below the poverty line plus
•the millions of bankruptcies due to health care Plus
•permitted unhealthy food additives and
•the pharma prescription drug addiction crisis.

...........
I would say it's gang-related shootings and uncontrolled chronic illnesses like asthma that are major problems for teenage boys. The bulleted problems cause flatting out and lowering of life expectancy for older people (aged 45+), and to those issues I would add food deserts, both urban and rural.

Pmk