Just how exactly are we going to 'bring the country back together'?

[KennDodd]

Both candidates for PM have claimed they can do this. I heard a Tory party member interviewed on the radio saying that the best way to do this was a 'no deal/WTO/crash out because we'll all be in it together and it'll be like the war'.
I don't know how these wounds are going to heal.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong. In rural France, at least, there is a large population of British families often from fairly disadvantaged (or at least modest) backgrounds living off low-paid work and benefits. They usually moved to France to give better opportunities to their kids.

These people would never have been able to move without free movement, and some of them will face significant issues in showing adequate income levels in the event of a no-deal Brexit. (The ones who've been here for 5 years should be OK. Others may risk losing access to benefits and healthcare).

The sort of jobs they do round here: building work, teaching English, running gites or cafés. Low wage, precarious, heavily subsidised by family benefits.

Well if the French tax payers don't want to continue to support their nice lifestyles then they will have to find more work or move to where the work is. Eh LeClerc?

@Largs like agricultural work in the UK.

Or meat processing work. In the UK. Jobs British people don't do. But should. Good luck getting all those people suckered into voting for this omnishambles to move to the back of beyond to clean out chicken carcasses.

Tourism mostly. A couple teach English. Not beautifully paid but better weather and chance to learn a new language.
That's what I did in a non-EU country. I'm sure people like that won't mind filling in a few forms at the town hall like I did.

FWIW I have been working across all of Europe for the last 40 years.
Ease of travel is important to me but my move wasn't strictly about Brexit, but it seems a good thing to have done. At least I am surrounded by people who want to be Europeans.

Great @Largs . You and me both. Do you really think that
a) people will do it when it's more difficult; and
b) the EU won't put restrictions on third country workers coming in to do low paid work.
Plenty of non-British EU people speak English to teach (Ireland, Malta for example).
Plenty of young folk within the EU willing to take up other jobs. The EU, as BeLeavers are so fond of saying, protect their own. We won't be "their own" anymore.

I don't expect people who live in rural France at the French taxpayer's expense would ever vote Leave.

At least I am surrounded by people who want to be Europeans

So why don’t other remain supporters do the same?

Disgusting.

{French taxpayer's expense}

You don't get to live in another country and not pay tax.
You have to demonstrate you can self fund for IIR a year and pay for medical assistance etc. If you can't show commitment by working and registering you are out.

Good luck getting all those people suckered into voting for this omnishambles to move to the back of beyond to clean out chicken carcasses. You are a great writer. This made me laugh. But seriously, the UK will have to invest properly in automation now to do the vile work that nobody wants to do. About time.

You don't get to live in another country and not pay tax

Unless the country you live in does not have taxes.

I don't expect people who live in rural France at the French taxpayer's expense would ever vote Leave.

I expect you would be surprised in some cases, although the vast majority will have been disenfranchised by the UK's not-fit-for-purpose postal voting arrangements.

move to where the work is

They'll go back to the JK. And the ones who return will be the ones who are most expensive for the U.K. to support - early retirees and low wage families with kids.

That's the brutal truth of it. Higher rate tax payers like me will never go back until the Brexit generation has died off.

I hear what you are saying, but I don't think disadvantaged Brits take any advantage of FofM at all. Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're wrong. I did. I came from the most disadvantaged background you can imagine, somebody like me would never have qualified for immigration to another country. FOM opened my eyes to the world, it also showed me just how poor and disadvantaged I'd been in the UK. My kid's will probably still have some opportunities for work and study abroad because they live a very middle class life and we'd be able to navigate the system and have a bit of money behind them. Kids growing up in similar conditions to me though will no longer have those opportunities though, Brexit voters and politicians will have stripped them of those life chances

Correct me if I'm wrong My family is not wealthy by any means but one of my children had the wanderlust and went travelling on a shoestring. Ended up in an EU city, bumped into an old friend who was on his way to an interview, joined him, both got jobs there and then. That was 4 years ago and he's still there and in a relationship with a local girl.
My leave voting mother's face was a picture when she realised how the vote will affect him.

My leave voting mother's face was a picture when she realised how the vote will affect him.

Did she care? My job was under threat because of Brexit, I survived the Brexit cut but colleagues didn't. My Leave voting mum didn't care, price worth paying according to her. She thinks any price (that other people pay) is worth it to 'stop all these Muslims coming over here' she insists that the Muslim pedophilia rings are only here because we're in the EU. I could cry over her veiws.

Higher rate tax payers like me will never go back until the Brexit generation has died off

Could be a while as not every leave voter was a pensioner.

@KennDodd, no, not really. I'm not sure she has thought anything through except that my late father didn't like the EU.
She's of the opinion that nothing much will change and has dismissed my concerns as scaremongering 🙄

Could be a while as not every leave voter was a pensioner.

I'm not in a hurry. A bit of Brexit austerity and some more NHS cuts will help things along.

Easy, everyone. My mum's last vote was for Remain- she was 86. It's the baby boomers that voted in this nonsense. They'll be around for a bit.

Not all of us baby boomers of course. However this covers a 20 year span, so the older boomers are now in their early seventies With life expectancy currently being 79.2 for men and 82.9 for women, quite a few will be gone within the next ten years.

It would be interesting to know whether there is a split in the voting patterns of the early baby boomers - say 1945-55 and the later ones 1956 -64.