Just how exactly are we going to 'bring the country back together'?

[KennDodd]

Both candidates for PM have claimed they can do this. I heard a Tory party member interviewed on the radio saying that the best way to do this was a 'no deal/WTO/crash out because we'll all be in it together and it'll be like the war'.
I don't know how these wounds are going to heal.

Who says we don't owe it? That was my original question.

Because so far it's only leavers saying it, so you'll forgive me for not judging them to be a) impartial or b) clued up on the reality of what is and isn't owed.

If we are to be responsible for a proportion of UK debt, then we also have rights of a proportion of UK assets.

That's a very fair point. And we'll have our oilfields and fishing waters back while we're at it thanks.

Yes Leavers obviously. It's an area of law that wasn't planned for so there is scope for different interpretations. From what I heard, Leavers have less issue with moral obligation (ERG have said they should pay something to cover this).

The idea that the majority of conservative party members - the unionist party- would prefer to split the union over this than revoke Brexit is what makes me despair and think this is going to end in No Deal.

For Hunt to be blathering about fexking fox hunting while Boris is sorting out tax breaks for the elite and they are the future. We're fucked.

Just how exactly are we going to 'bring the country back together'?

By accepting the fact that apart from the circus that is 'Brexit' the majority of the citizens of the UK care about the same stuff, when it comes to political priorities, so healthcare, social care, education, security and policing, the environment and pollution, etc. This is the stuff that effects our daily lives.

We've all got a bit distracted and need to seriously ask ourselves who benefits as a result ?

So when the NHS is sold to the highest bidders? When disaster capitalism runs amock? When it's too late? When there is no money for education because of a downturn in the economy and more schools shut part time. What then?

When there is no money for education because of a downturn in the economy and more schools shut part time. What then?

Sadly we start refighting battles that we thought were won years ago, like for the right to education, health care, workers rights.

It’s a car crash and that clown Johnson is going to get in to be a matchup with Trump

Actually I think Johnson might be our only hope. I think he's more likely to revoke than Hunt and would be able to take a significant number of Leavers with him (clutching at straws),

c) no resetting the clock with a revoke/start again approach, although I'd massively favour the third if only anyone would champion it

Only remain supporters are in favour of revoke.

I have reached the point where I really want nothing to do socially or professionally with anyone who voted leave and who does not bitterly regret their vote

Arrogance again.

Were you born with the right to tell how other people should vote?

I have reached the point where I really want nothing to do socially or professionally with anyone who voted leave and who does not bitterly regret their vote

That’s pretty much where I’m at too

More arrogance.

Were you born with the right to tell other people how they should vote?

That's a nice idea but we all know how brexiteers feel about facts and experts.

Arrogance again.

Expert reports are biased in favour of their own personal opinion as demonstrated by fact they are all different.

Remain experts forecast that up to 800,000 jobs would be lost just by voting to leave. Never happened. Unemployment has reduced since the 2016 referendum.

Remain experts forecast that UK would go into recession just by voting to leave. Never happened. UK GDP has grown since the 2016 referendum.

And we'll have our oilfields and fishing waters back while we're at it thanks

Return of fishing waters will please many of the coastal villages in Scotland. Oil is not the money spinner it used to be. The days of US$140/barrel are over.

Scotland must have been pleased the 2014 independence vote was to remain in the UK when Oil crashed to US$32/barrel in 2015.

For Hunt to be blathering about fexking fox hunting while Boris is sorting out tax breaks for the elite and they are the future

True. Neither is of any benefit to the "average" person.

"Arrogance again" says the man in the Far East pontificating about the "virtues" of suicide bombers and casually predicting the break up of the UK with no care for the consequences.

Were you born with the right to tell other people how they should vote?

Read it again. It's about socialising not voting. It might be the consequence of voting but its not telling someone how to vote.

Because in my view it is arrogant to tell people how they should vote.

Does England own Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales? If they want independence they are entitled to pursue that route.

It might be the consequence of voting but its not telling someone how to vote

Twist it any which way you like, these threads are full of remain supporters labeling those who voted leave as;

Uneducated
Benefit Scroungers
Idiots
Racists

"Does England own Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales? If they want independence they are entitled to pursue that route."
Your new found interest in other nations in the union having just realised they exist is touching. And suggesting that Northern Ireland wants independence is an interesting twist on things 😂😂😂

I think the only way to heal this is to have a second vote and include a NDA in the voting slip so nobody is ever allowed to tell anyone how they voted. Obviously wouldn't happen but it might be the only way.

Your new found interest in other nations in the union having just realised they exist is touching

Lived in Scotland for 2 years, hence reason bought property.

Worked on Ballylumford Power station in NI in 2002/2003

Uncle lives in Wales

Yes. You love the UK so much you don't live with n the same time zone.

Yes. You love the UK so much you don't live with n the same time zone

My education is in Engineering/Manufacturing. Sadly that sector was dismantled by Thatcher from the early 80s onward and the Power Plant manufacturers I worked for sold mostly to overseas markets.

So what? We all have ups and downs in life. I've lived and worked abroad too. A lot. You've managed to get away from your problems. Do you think everyone has your options. Freedom of Movement (which came in after I had lived and worked abroad) gave ordinary people with limited options the chance to try their luck abroad in the EU. And you think taking that away from them is ok.