Just how exactly are we going to 'bring the country back together'?

[KennDodd]

Both candidates for PM have claimed they can do this. I heard a Tory party member interviewed on the radio saying that the best way to do this was a 'no deal/WTO/crash out because we'll all be in it together and it'll be like the war'.
I don't know how these wounds are going to heal.

I worked in Bulgaria 2003/2006 before it became an EU member and more recently in 2016/2017.

The second time took three months to mobilize due to EU regulations. Far longer than it took the first time around. Hilarious.

Nothing to prevent people from working in the EU after Brexit, just they will need Work Permit.

@LifeContinues , having been the only one in my impoverished Northern school class group to work abroad because we have family experience of doing just that since WWII (and before), I can say that most people are put off by the idea of having to jump through several administrative hoops just to get a job abroad.
With FoM, people with no family experience could just do it. Post Brexit, it simply wouldn't be as easy.

With FoM, people with no family experience could just do it. Post Brexit, it simply wouldn't be as easy.

So someone from a humble origin with a bit of get up and go at present could try their luck elsewhere. In future, immigration quotas will favour the already trained and as we have seen with UK immigration, rules about minimum income. Welcome to only the wealthy being able to move as easily. It will be fine for the Rees-Mogg offspring.

{Only remain supporters are in favour of revoke.}

Yes, those who voted remain who WERE just under half the electorate that voted.

{Expert reports are biased in favour of their own personal opinion as demonstrated by fact they are all different.}

While there may be variance in the numbers that such reports produce, ALL of them with any credibility, that take sufficient numbers of factors into account show that leaving will have a NEGATIVE effect on the UK. Even Patrick Minford, the ERG 'expert' says that while it might be good for the finance industry, manufacturing will be buggered.
The UK needs MASS employment at a level that people can live on.

{Remain experts forecast that up to 800,000 jobs would be lost just by voting to leave. Never happened. Unemployment has reduced since the 2016 referendum.}

Two things, Brexit hasn't officially started yet, the UK is still in the EU.
Secondly, the turmoil caused already has led to significant job losses in decently paying activities, and the rise of zero hour and part time work has led to a theoretical boost to employment, but in reality most of the 'new' jobs are on minimum wage and overall unsustainable for a decent lifestyle.

Only remain supporters are in favour of revoke
My leave voting friend wants revoke. She hates the whole idea now and is beyond furious about the lies politicians told, she describes her vote as stolen from her.

Even Patrick Minford, the ERG 'expert' says that while it might be good for the finance industry, manufacturing will be buggered

Manufacturing in the UK started to be buggered in the mid 80s courtesy of Mrs. Thatcher.

Two things, Brexit hasn't officially started yet, the UK is still in the EU

I know, but the doom forecasts were based on by just voting to leave even before UK actually leaves and UK would enter an immediate recession. Even Carney is starting to say things will not be as bad as previously thought.

I see the firm Bathstore has gone into administration. Not just losing jobs of employees if a buyer can't be found, but also endangering the businesses of the building tradesmen who they subcontracted the fitting to. People are holding back from spending on 'big ticket' items because of the uncertainty surrounding Brexit.

I see the firm Bathstore has gone into administration

I know the answer to this one...

It's because of DIESEL!

{Manufacturing in the UK started to be buggered in the mid 80s courtesy of Mrs. Thatcher.}

Just how small is your brain? You are attributing the factors of declining resources, a bolshy government and unions to current situations. UK manufacturing has progressed and there are many centres of excellence, but governmental incompetence has not maximised the potential, and often leaves investment to others outside the UK who do not have the overall strategy of the UK as their top priority.
The finance industry may be good for some, and it can create a lot of wealth, but it is concentrated on too few of the workforce of the UK, and it is the middle and lower sections of the workforce who need to be living adequately at least and spending, which supports the local communities.
A 'rich banker' buying a gold plated Ferrari every few years does nothing to help the UK generally.

UK is too far gone in terms of decline in engineering and manufacturing. The shift to a service based economy and the resulting North South divide is forever increasing.

The U.K. is very good at certain types of specialist manufacturing. It's heavy industry that has gone.

It's heavy industry that has gone

Correct and they employed more than the specialist manufacturing companies as it was about volume. Steel, cars, coal, etc.

That's not really true. Even if heavy industry had remained, jobs would have gone due to automation - heavy and extractive industries employ fewer and fewer people, partly for cost reasons and partly because heavy and extractive industry is inherently dangerous so ideally you do not want people working too close to the coal face (to use an apt metaphor).

I work in natural resources/commodities and the trend all over the developed and developing world is to get people away from furnaces and rockfaces because it's a dangerous place to work. If you don't want to kill people, you have machines do what people used to do manually (and often died doing).

Specialist manufacturing OTOH can be very labour intensive. I have had occasion to visit some of the big medical device companies in Ireland and they employ hundreds and hundreds of people doing highly skilled work (or checking other people's highly skilled work, which is a skill in itself).

It's that very Service sector that is in so much danger from Brexit. There are very few (if any) trade agreements allowing the freedoms of the EU to services.

So you're quite happy to trash what you deem to be the only future industry in the country.

Typical Quitling though, don't do joined up thinking.

{partly because heavy and extractive industry is inherently dangerous so ideally you do not want people working too close to the coal face }

The USA (particularly) has outsourced warfare too, preferring to fly drones from a nice air conditioned room in Langley.

So is specialist manufacturing! My employer is building a new plant in Eastern Europe due to Brexit.

I've seen internal estimates that a no-deal Brexit will add 10-12 days to shipment times in Europe. Understandably customers aren't having any of this, and even if they can cope with the delay they expect the supplier to pay all the additional costs including import duties.

You either have to stockpile (impossible for custom parts) or relocate.

Mistigri
You mean that your customers want goods on time and not just 'feelz'?
How unsporting of them!

I can say that most people are put off by the idea of having to jump through several administrative hoops just to get a job abroad.
I worked for 3 years in a non-EU European country. I went on holiday, got a job, then registered for residency etc. It was easy. Obviously I could not have stayed legally if I did not have a job, but that is how it should be. Loads of ordinary Brits get jobs in non-EU countries. There are daytime TV shows all about it.

{I can say that most people are put off by the idea of having to jump through several administrative hoops just to get a job abroad.}

Absolutely but too many expect that this can happen without any effort or compromise. Usually restricted healthcare and effort to sort out pensions etc. Much easier to sit at home and complain about 'foreigners'.

UK is too far gone in terms of decline in engineering and manufacturing.
That's a very pessimistic view. You could say that we are not lumbered by a load of heavy industry and coalmines and that we are in a uniquely good position to invest in new technologies - without having to worry about putting existing manufacturers out of business. We have the magic money trees, we have the top universities, with the right immigration and education policies, we can pull in more engineers from all over the world and train our own. I am super optimistic.

Hurray @Largs . Everything is super.

I know that people can get to work abroad with not too much admin effort. I did it in the 80s and early 90s. But if you think of the people who are already disadvantaged economically, making that leap of faith (particularly if they don't have the obvious skills wanted in other countries) is very difficult. And maybe financially prohibitive. FoM took down a barrier. Getting rid of it puts it back up again.
Not everyone is you.

I hear what you are saying, but I don't think disadvantaged Brits take any advantage of FofM at all. Correct me if I'm wrong.

@Largs - you're wrong. I know quite a few.

Where do they find well paid unskilled work?

Tourism mostly. A couple teach English. Not beautifully paid but better weather and chance to learn a new language.