Westminstenders: Long live liberalism

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Talk of its demise are premature.

(Sorry up to eyeballs this weekend)

Almost as if it was obvious all along that TW lobbying within Labour for the LibDems was only ever going to hurt Labour.

Couple of points from pp.

Main block to WA passing with help of 30 Labour MPs would be the ERG. It would actually need the full support of PLP to pass now which cannot happen thanks to failed talks with TM and TW's politicking.

Not sure I agree October is worse than March for No Deal. Exchange rates are nearly always worse in Spring / Summer as UK goes abroad on holiday and so will be cushioned a little if there is a devaluation effect in Autumn. May be like 2008 when Christmas was practically cancelled in a lot of households but the January sales were very very worthwhile. Admittedly not nice for importing retailers but not all bad for consumers.

TW has lobbied for the Lib Dems ? Seriously?

No Deal = Not nice for retailers but great for consumers. You are having a laugh now, surely.

Out of idle curiosity (as I don't think it will happen), if the HoC did pass a blocking bill against No-Deal, what would the PM of the day do then?

Howabout I think the households where Christmas was practically cancelled were not the same as the households who enjoyed a bumper bonanza in the January sales. What you’re talking about is small scale vulture capitalism. And vulture capitalism is a big part of why we are in the various messes we are in (austerity, Brexit). All that “chaos is a ladder” shit is hugely destructive, even if a few people pick up some crumbs along the way.

{Exchange rates are nearly always worse in Spring / Summer }

The exchange rates took a dive 3 years ago and haven't come back to the surface since. The world is not in 'normal' times.

Just wanted to say Happy Birthday for Born for ** later on.

I hope your birthday present will be to wake up and find this political meltdown was all a dream.

Unfortunately, I'm sorry, your birthday gift will be to see the worst politician in recent decades being rewarded with the highest office possible.

Still unbelievable.

Anyone else see this as a bit of a willy wave to the Spanish? Guardian story on the Marines and oil tanker in Gibralter. Soft power play.

Hunt really wants to lose! Today his pro hunting stance is all over the media.

Didn't May do the same about being pro hunting then she had to back pedal? It's always a sure vote loser, although perhaps it's a vote winner with the 160,000 esteemed white male papal conclave.

perhaps it's a vote winner with the 160,000 esteemed white male papal conclave

Exactly this - it’s a fishing exercise for the fucking red trouser elderly country set. Give it a few days and a further lurch to the right and I’m fully expecting some exploration of bringing back capital punishment.

Indeed... and he has already been backpedalling.

I suspect it is a Boris'ism - tell different audiences what they want to hear, and they only hear that part of the message. All the changes and retractions are "obviously" just aimed at the "other" people, who do not know what his true position is...

The whole leadership 'race' is intensely boring.
Almost as if they want to distract us from Brexit...

Thank you lonely! Actually a while ago I did have a dream that it was all a bad dream (there was also something about cows but not sure how related). But when I woke up it was still grim reality.

This will be an interesting read:

www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/tax-funded-research-by-rees-moggs-erg-must-be-released-tribunal-rules/

I can't honestly believe the comments that come out of this dinosaur Widdlecum likening leaving EU to emancipation of slaves

I wonder why some people think Leave voters were racist?

Is that the Widdecome that was VOTED IN as a MEP sitting amonf 750 other MEPs who were voted in, and are waiting for the VOTE for the next President and EU leadership team, complaining about lack of democracy?

The same Widdecome representing the UK who at one point in history had enslaved nearly half the world by use of terror and murder?

I suppose, being overly generous, you could conceive that she is simply projecting the sense of superiority that, as a believer in Empire 2.0 she has, onto the EU and presuming all the negative attributes of the British Empire on to it

Either that or she is just an evil old woman.

Actually quite shocked at Anne’s speech. She’s deluded, I’ve seen sieves hold more water than her argument.

She should have stuck to ballroom dancing- she was better at it.

A big 🍫 to all Westministenders for kind wishes

This is a haven of sanity
Most politicians have either gone bonkers or are hiding until it all goes away

Corbyn has done the latter
Shameful that the Leader of the Official Opposition has said so little, offered hardly any ideas, hidden himself away

The govt is in chaos, the batshit fighting the delusional
There is a power vacuum
The country has rarely been in such deperate need for the Opposition Leader to step up and present alternative policies

Instead, we have a Corbyn-shaped hole
..... The man who wasn't there

Tom Newton Dunn@tnewtondunn

Quote of the day to @DavidGauke:

“A willingness by politicians to say what they think the public want to hear, and a willingness by large parts of the public to believe what they are told by populist politicians,
has led to a deterioration in our public discourse”.

Comment on the poll red posted

Labour are 4th
Think about that.

Shocking performance, with much of the problem being the drip leading them


Tom Newton Dunn@tnewtondunn

Labour falls to 4th;
with the Tories in civil war, the nation bitterly divided and a minority Govt that’s done nothing in 3 years.

What happens when events turn against them?

The govt is in chaos, the batshit fighting the delusional
There is a power vacuum
The country has rarely been in such deperate need for the Opposition Leader to step up and present alternative policies

Instead, we have a Corbyn-shaped hole
..... The man who wasn't there

I was only a kid when Kinnock was in opposition, but I have clear memories of him going spare at the Tories in Parliament; he was certainly passionate.

Corbyn lacks presence, gumption and oomph. It's just pathetic how fucking useless he is in his role.

Labour need to sort out their softly, softly way of dealing with errant leaders and 'go 1922' on his ass!