Westminstenders: Tory Natural Selection

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Here we go again...

It's certainly hard to tell if they are deliberately trying to loose, such is the total incompetence as we are used to

Pmk

But I thought the point was that Gove is a hypocrite...

Thinking about drug (and speculating about) use amongst Tory leadership candidates, why do I not remember this coming up when Theresa was standing ?---- 🤔🤔🤔

To be fair running through fields of wheat was her thing. I doubt she's ever even considered alka-seltzer

Maybe the media are trying to tell us that you'd have to be high to want this job?

Meanwhile, Rory the Tory seems to be hitting every nail firmly a la tete as he calls out Boris for 'bullshit'

I'm not falling for Rory.

I agree that the real issue is Gove's hypocrisy - and also DGR's point that these are the lawmakers and as such shouldn't be above the law.

Having said that, afaik, all the incidents so far recounted were before they became MPs (happy to be corrected ) and as such, come under the scope of "he who is without sin...." category. ( Except Gove , who was writing hypocritical articles about the dangers of cocaine and drug abuse, although some are arguing that he was astute enough to include people like him within the article, if you read it properly).

But as mistigri points out, there is a degree of class (and privilege) involved in who ends up with criminal records and who ends up with just warnings for similar offences

Absolutely DGR

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‏*@StevePeers*
The real problem with cannabis and cocaine use is that it's a gateway to major abuse of election spending law.

pmk

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Place cat queen

Who nobbled Gove?

Someone tipped off the journalist. Gove would have been asked to 'put his side of the story' first before they splattered him all over the front page with a 'Gove in drug shame shocker' story.

Team Boris or Team Rabb?

Meanwhile:

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1138266/Brexit-news-european-union-eu-no-deal-cross-party-remainer-tory-leadership

The only people who scuppered Brexit - to address that Express article - are ERG.

Team Boris or Raab? Suggests that Gove is getting a bit more support than they want to see.

Gove was nobbled ,they think, but an ex aide of his.

Peregina, Gove imo is the front runner. I'm not in the least bit surprised. I think he will ride it out though. I notice that the only other candidate really putting the boot in on it has been Javid, who has been struggling for support. Hunt is probably the big winner from the debacle at the moment though.

TiP says Hi and that she thinks Grinchly's cat is gorgeous

She doesn't want to sneak back on under a different name (like some PBPs) because she knows her posting style is very distinctive and there are only really three topics she particularly want to come back to post in (but they are also distinctively "hers" so would make it easy for stalkers who don't like her to "find" her): debt/Credit crunch, WM/Brexit and gardening.

I know I miss her astute (and sometimes acerbic ) comments here on the WM threads and also her fund of experience on the Gardening threads. Never really personally had to look for advice on the Debt threads, but I know that there were many who appreciated her down-to-earth (and sometimes "tough love") advice on those threads and have got themselves out of debt thanks to her

I thought that that was what MNHQ was supposed to be about (and although I recognise it is a commercial enterprise, it is where and why it gets the number of hits that it does): people, especially women, supporting other people, especially women

Hi tip
You are missed x

< waves to TiP >

Her banning is another shameful example of MNHQ siding with a small spiteful clique
and banning posters whose "posting face" somehow doesn't fit,
despite them genuinely helping a lot of women

red I agree that Gove is the most likely PM

• BUT only if the saner Tory grandees & MPs manage to grab the steering wheel

Boris or Raab would crash the economy - and the Tory party - over the cliff

Matthew Parris: Johnson premiership will fall apart in a year

Both Parris & the Times must be sufficiently satisfied the evidence is there, not to worry about a libel action

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/let-me-assure-you-boris-johnson-will-fail-as-pm-hl7b6tkx5

Colleagues know the party favourite is a lazy, untrustworthy do-nothing but seem determined to vote for him anyway
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That he's a habitual liar, a cheat,
a conspirator with a criminal pal to have an offending journalist's ribs broken,

a cruel betrayer of the women he seduces,

a politician who connived in a bid for a court order to suppress mention of a daughter he fathered, < vile man >

a do-nothing mayor of London
and the worst foreign secretary in living memory…

such truths are apparently already "priced in" to Mr Johnson.

One just hopes the actual electorate are informed that his rascality is already "priced in" and they’re not to bother their little heads with such horrors.

Is Johnson the only one who could stop Tory votes going to Farage?
I don't think for one moment he will be able to negotiate a deal with the EU. I do think he could do an about turn and revoke - which he would if he saw that was the way the wind was blowing.