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Brexit

Leavers rejoice

999 replies

Coppersulphate · 13/05/2019 11:01

The Brexit Party are doing really well in the polls. I just hope they do as well in the election.
I think their slogan should be "Tell them again".
I would like to see a clean sweep of Brexiteers but I know that is not going to happen.
I have sent off my postal vote.

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barkingfly · 14/05/2019 06:12

anyone got a milkshake?

bellinisurge · 14/05/2019 06:13

I love Hmmthe idea that people who voted Remain shouldn't be on this thread. Pesky democratic online forum with the wrong kind of user.
Start up your own social media and ban whoever disagrees with you. Good luck with the advertising revenue Grin

Peregrina · 14/05/2019 06:24

They won't need advertising revenue - they will only need a sub from their pals Farage and Arron Banks.

Sycamorish · 14/05/2019 06:44

ChavvyOldBrexiteer

I agree with you OP. I usually vote Green but am fully behind the Brexit Party.

Me too.

bellinisurge · 14/05/2019 06:58

Hurray! with so many supporting the Brexit Party we are bound to get a GFA compliant Brexit. They all know about it better than little old me and our peaceful and prosperous future is assured.

bellinisurge · 14/05/2019 07:04

Oh, I forgot- GFA compliant means a No Deal Brexit because GFA doesn't specifically rule it out with words . It therefore means that whatever England (specifically) wants is fine and everyone else is a deluded blocker/wrecker.

Sycamorish · 14/05/2019 07:15

bellinisurge. Hurray! with so many supporting the Brexit Party we are bound to get a GFA compliant Brexit.

I think so yes. With full and friendly cooperation with Ireland and help from the US (as with the original GFA.)

bellinisurge · 14/05/2019 07:19

This would be the US who's majority Congressional Speaker Nancy Pelosi warned us about messing with GFA.
And an Ireland for which "full and friendly" doesn't mean "doing what Faridge tells them".

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 14/05/2019 07:19

How Sycamorish? What do you think the solution is?

Peregrina · 14/05/2019 07:25

Do you really think that the USA, who as you say, were very instrumental in negotiating the original GFA, are going to undo it to help get the Tory party out of a hole?

I could see that if they saw that the will for renegotiation was there in both NI and RoI that they would be prepared to revisit it, but that isn't the case.

Sycamorish · 14/05/2019 07:30

The solution is to leave the EU with no deal and to be absolutely clear that we will sit down with our friends in Ireland and work out something that respects the spirit of the GFA. The US will help as they did during the original GFA.
Sorry. Have to go to work now.

bellinisurge · 14/05/2019 07:44

We're so trustworthy. I'm sure they will just roll over and do what we want. And no one will be cross about it. History of NI in a nutshell 😂😂😂😂

lonelyplanetmum · 14/05/2019 07:46

Errr two points:

  1. If we are so keen to achieve complete autonomy why is the Leaver solution to ask the US to 'help' us. Where is the rejoicing in that?
  1. Nancy Pelosi expressly warned if the UK's manner of leaving the EU damages the GFA then forget about a US-UK trade deal. Where is the rejoicing in that?
HarveySchlumpfenburger · 14/05/2019 08:05

If it’s so easy to work out we wouldn’t need to leave without a deal we could sort it and agree a deal.

Either way, there’s only one likely outcome to us being on one side of the negotiating table and the EU and US united on the other. Neither the democrats nor the republicans are going to be fighting our corner on this issue.

RomanyQueen1 · 14/05/2019 08:15

We aren't going to leave, we never were.

1tisILeClerc · 14/05/2019 08:30

The UK could leave, but it would take 6 to 10 years of planning to do it in a least damaging way. Unfortunately the UK has spent almost 3 years trying to decide what it wants and has got all 'uppity' because leaving will not involve any cake or cherry picking but solid hard graft which is not what was announced by the Leave campaigns.
Since the negotiating tactics by the UK have involved being abusive to most other parties in one way or another, the possibility of 'good deals' is receding rapidly, in the way that punching the bank manager in the face is not a good starting position when you would like to organise a loan.

borntobequiet · 14/05/2019 08:32

Brexit party candidate on Today programme this morning saying we could improve education once free of EU regulation.
Interviewer asks: "name one EU regulation that affects how we do education".
Brex person stumped. (Hint: there are none).

CrunchyCarrot · 14/05/2019 08:40

For balance, I voted Leave in the referendum but now realise that choice was based on poor information and lies. If we do have a PV I will vote Remain, if it's a choice given. I am voting for a Remain party in the EU elections.

I find no need to be rude to Leavers as everyone voted based on their own circumstances and beliefs. However I honestly don't know how anyone can be sucked in by Farage. He is self-serving and if things go tits up he will be gone and will leave a sorry mess behind. I don't expect anything better from Boris, either. Worse still, Farage doesn't believe in climate change or if he does, doesn't think it's worthwhile the UK reducing emissions as it would change so little overall (he said as much to Marr). His attitude is lamentable.

All I can say is if you still believe Leave is the way to go, then please do more research and realise we will not be better off outside the EU. Sure it's not perfect there but where is?

1tisILeClerc · 14/05/2019 08:41

Whilst it's not an EU regulation, most other EU countries teach at least 2 if not more languages to a high standard. Maybe they have spotted the need to communicate effectively with friends and neighbours?

Langrish · 14/05/2019 08:43

RomanyQueen1

“We aren't going to leave, we never were”

Oh, I do hope you’re right.

1tisILeClerc · 14/05/2019 08:49

{Farage doesn't believe in climate change or if he does, doesn't think it's worthwhile the UK reducing emissions as it would change so little overall }
Unfortunately there is a good degree of truth in that HOWEVER as the UK is well known for innovation and research it SHOULD be among the (particularly European) universities and industrial 'scene' to push forward ways to reduce the damage to the planet. China and the USA are particularly bad at causing damage with relatively little incentive to restrain their economy to reduce the damage.
By continued collaboration of UK scientists with others in countries (Europe is a strong leader in conservation) there would be an opportunity to boost the UK economy as ideas develop.
An opportunity missed.

BackInTime · 14/05/2019 09:15

Never underestimate the power and influence of the Irish in the USA, so many Americans are of Irish decent and feel very strongly about their heritage. Any move by the US politicians against the GFA would be disastrous in the run up to US elections.

Isthisafreename · 14/05/2019 09:30

@Sycamorish - I think so yes. With full and friendly cooperation with Ireland and help from the US (as with the original GFA.

You're either deluded as to what is possible, ignorant of the reality of NI and the GFA or a member/supporter of the DUP who would like nothing better than to see the GFA in tatters.

Ireland is no longer a colonial territory to be exploited by the UK for its own ends. I have been very pleased to see Leo Varadkar standing up for what is right and refusing to give way to British attempts to intimidate him into complying.

CrunchyCarrot · 14/05/2019 09:35

Yes I agree LeClerc but as you say, the UK MUST lead the way here. This really is one of those occasions when everyone must do whatever they can, no matter how small, to make a difference. Smile

Isthisafreename · 14/05/2019 10:01

@1tisILeClerc - Unfortunately there is a good degree of truth in that HOWEVER as the UK is well known for innovation and research it SHOULD be among the (particularly European) universities and industrial 'scene' to push forward ways to reduce the damage to the planet.

It's a shame UK universities are being excluded from EU funded projects already. Very few EU universities are currently willing to partner up with a UK university due to the uncertainty of Brexit and not knowing whether UK will be eligible to participate once the funding is decided.

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