Leavers rejoice

[Coppersulphate]

The Brexit Party are doing really well in the polls. I just hope they do as well in the election.
I think their slogan should be "Tell them again".
I would like to see a clean sweep of Brexiteers but I know that is not going to happen.
I have sent off my postal vote.

Please do report it, but better still actually read what I said. Saying that people who enthusiastically supported Hitler later had very real cause to regret it, is just that. You are an enthusiastic supporter of Farage which you may or may not regret in the years to come. I don't expect him to do anything for you, but that will be your problem.

I am still more than happy to stand by my statement that Farage is a fascist when one of his teachers reported that he went round singing 'gas them all'. Now a lot of us do stupid things when we are teenagers, but mostly we grow up. I have seen no signs that Farage has repented of his fascist ways.

Copper

You could "explain" in a sentence or two the benefits of Brexit or whether you feel the exodus of EU nationals leaving the UK is acceptable..... you can't! so you call these 2 reasonable questions "Bullying"

Hiding behind "their rights are protected" is weak argument, they obviously don't feel that at all, just as forward thinking Jews in the 1920s and early 30's left Germany despite being told everything will be fine.

How you can draw from what Peregrina wrote as "comparing leave voters to Nazis" (though some are) shows your lack of thought.

{No country will be devastated by bombing when we leave.}

So how 'chilled' is the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland?
Shall I put your name forward as a prospective customs officer to stand on the border?

{You are an enthusiastic supporter of Farage which you may or may not regret in the years to come.}
November 1st?

If any of the 'rejoicers' live in the South East, here's one of the wankers you can vote for... more here

EU national living here will have their rights protected.

Yeah, right. As the Windrush citizens were.

So how 'chilled' is the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland?
No country will be devastated by bombing when we leave.

Colin Parry lost his son when Warrington was bombed. Warrington is in England. One of the Brexit candidates refuses to disavow early support for the IRA bombing campaigns.

Yet Corbyn is criticised for being both anti-Semitic and talking to the IRA. Different standards for different party Leaders obviously, and I am no fan of Corbyn.

Who back in 1984 when Torville and Dean were winning the Ice skating at the Olympics with their magnificent routines, thought that the country would be engulfed in Civil War less than 10 years later? One or two perceptive people did, but the majority of us didn't.

EU citizens' rights are absolutely not being protected, and nor are those of Britons in Europe. All of us are losing a significant chunk of rights - in the best case scenario, most of us will be able to remain in our homes, but every single one of us will lose many of the rights and protections that we now enjoy.

And that's in a managed exit. A no-deal Brexit is likely to result in Windrush on steroids. So far only about 20% of the EU citizens in the U.K. have even applied for settled status, and many have not received the outcome they expected. Others are waiting to see, will boycott the process, or will simply not realise that they need to do anything (vulnerable people, care leavers, older people who have been in the U.K. for many decades).

"No country will be devastated by bombing when we leave."

Northern Ireland. Seriously? You don't see that.

If it was just about hurt feelings and people bit a bit worse off for some silly fantasy, I could put up with that. I remember Thatcher ffs. But I do not want to go back to the Troubles when we have come so far in tbe other direction.

I agree. No Dealers should volunteer to sort out customs and anti smuggling on tbe NI border . According to them, there won't be any work to do.

Talking to 'terrorists' is necessary to find any sort of resolution. Condoning their activities or enabling them is different of course and the lines must be as clear as possible.

I have no intention of engaging with remainers who ask me to explain. Why on earth should I

OP you started this thread in celebration of the Brexit Party's success in the polls and seem gleeful that that the GFA and subsequent arrangements to secure peace in NI could be disregarded if necessary to achieve leaving without a deal. It is only fair that whatever insight you have about what Brexit and the possible upsides that you believe Farage can deliver should be explained and shared so others can better understand your perspective.

Don't worry, the worst of the damage will be over in thirty years time, according to this Brexit Party candidate

www.indy100.com/article/brexit-party-eu-elections-lucy-harris-economy-30-years-8919786

Opinion polls put the Brexit party on 36% in wales and 33% overall in the UK.
They are doing much better than anyone thought and the result should send a clear message to those remain loving MPs to get on with Brexit

"the result should send a clear message to those remain loving MPs to get on with Brexit"

You mean the result should send a clear message to those leave loving MPs that they had a chance to Leave and because they are cowardly, they blew it. Everything that happens now including an even softer Brexit or No Brexit is their fault. And the shit that comes on all of us if we no Deal is their fault and the fault of anyone else who enables it.

The withdrawal agreement is still the only game in town. A moderate Conservative leader replacing May isn't going to be able to reopen talks with the EU unless to row back to customs union. A Brexiteer leader isn't going to scare the EU with threats of no deal.

Brexiteers need to stop with the fantasy. The game is up. You get a crappy WA or you get the scorched earth approach of no deal. Nobody wins.

GhostofFrankGrimes
Almost.
{You get a crappy WA or you get the scorched earth approach of no deal. Nobody wins.}

You get the crappy WA NOW (October 31st) and a 'scorched earth policy, or the crappy WA and a transition period.
The WA is not negotiable, it will happen either way.

ou mean the result should send a clear message to those leave loving MPs that they had a chance to Leave and because they are cowardly, they blew it. Everything that happens now including an even softer Brexit or No Brexit is their fault

Abso-fucking-lutely

You are going to run out of people to blame for this mess. But it sure as heck isn't MPs who supported Remain. They were always in the minority. The Tories and the DUP has a chance to get this through with their majority. Even if a couple of Tory MPs voted against the government, there would be enough Leave supporters on the opposition benches to make up for it.
But they didn't. They bottled it.

but they didn't. They bottled it

Yep

And we’d be out by now if it wasnt for that pesky GE

Bellini- It will be Remainers who are blamed for the consequences of Brexit. They'll say that if we voted for it and got behind it, it'd be a success. I think that there's a massive chunk of Remainers who will be enthusiastic about Brexit if Leavers could list the benefits of Leaving because they just want this limbo over.

{ I think that there's a massive chunk of Remainers who will be enthusiastic about Brexit if Leavers could list the benefits of Leaving}

3 years and still waiting for any advantages. 17.4 million leavers and no clue between them.

@pikapikachu , I have supported WA. That's as enthusiastic for Brexit as you could get from me. If I could suck it up and grudgingly support it, so could they. They didn't and we are where we are.
Blaming other people is a Leaver trademark.

Would love to know what Leavers see as the vision of the future of the UK. They say that they aren't racist but as a Remainer it seems that they want to live in the Britain of long past without immigration. What does Britain outside the EU look like? What can everyone look forward to post-Brexit?

Not sure what era they are talking about when we didn't have immigrants. Ice Age maybe.

Not sure what era they are talking about when we didn't have immigrants. Ice Age maybe.

Such a smart arse, I said it twice