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Westminstenders: The May Compromise

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RedToothBrush · 02/04/2019 19:20

After a marathon cabinet meeting, which no one seems to have resigned from, May has had another podium moment.

This time instead of blaming everyone but herself, she's gone for the 'let's compromise approach' to Corbyn.

This comes after Nick Boles crossed the floor saying his side wasn't prepared to compromise on anything after May secretly whipped on a 'free' vote against him.

May also said she we needed more of an extension to the 22nd May but without promise of EU elections this means No Deal inevitable if May can't pass the WA by then. Provided EU allow an extension until then without EU elections.

She also hinted at respecting a majority idea over indicative votes, if she and Corbyn fail to agree - remembering she tried successfully to sabotage that last night.

Already many are saying this is a trap to ensnare others into the mess that is Brexit in the blame game. With no deal ultimately the end goal.

The idea that May can find a compromise with Corbyn seems a fantasy.

And the EU might have every reason to refuse a longer extension under the circumstances.

For May to compromise she surely would have to break the Tories to do it as Labour will only go for a soft option which is unacceptable to the ERG. Unless her idea of compromise is simply its the WA or No deal which it seems hard to conceive Labour going near with the realistic prospect of the next PM being a hardliner.

All in all it seems more likely to be a framing exercise in damage limitation rather than something which has more substance and a realistic prospect of working. And if that's really the case, it certainly would explain why no one's resigned yet.

Indicative Votes 3 and a pretty dodgy Cooper Amendment designed to be a last ditch attempt to prevent no deal are both scheduled.

Its desparation stakes and the EU more or less have us down as a failed state. And the pro Brexit bombs don't really add much optimist to the mood.

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DGRossetti · 03/04/2019 15:55

Apropos of nothing ... no idea exactly why, but Green Network Energy have a tariff for Italian speakers Hmm

greennetworkenergy.co.uk/the-italian-touch/

Littlespaces · 03/04/2019 15:56

.@paulwaugh
@theSNP @LibDems @TheGreenParty @LSRPlaid and @TheIndGroup Westminster leaders - excluded from May/Corbyn talks - will all gather just before 4pm to make a joint statement in Commons

Sounds like they are annoyed at being left out.

DGRossetti · 03/04/2019 16:00

So May is hoping for a mass Labour vote with Tories and freeze out the dweebs ?

MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 16:01

Hamas, the IRA and Theresa May, but not Chukka Umuna.

If Jeremy Corbyn is prepared to sit down with you, it's a dead giveaway.

howabout · 03/04/2019 16:03

DGR I used to live at the back of Selfidges so used the Food Hall regularly. It and the whole shop has gone right down the pan imho. Full of overpriced cupcakes and brick-a-brack. Sad

May have to move to Hong Kong as F&M are branching out there.

I'm not keen on well-travelled sarnies complete with curly edges and sweaty cheese so not too bothered about this.

PostNotInHaste · 03/04/2019 16:03

I’m trying to cope with watching Redwood and Cash. Have really really strong feelings about Redwood in particular. Have had dealings with his son in the past who is an excellent example of not being judged for who and what your father is, he works really hard to make sure of a level playing field for those from less privileged backgrounds.

DGRossetti · 03/04/2019 16:04

DGR I used to live at the back of Selfidges

I worked for a year at BG plc - 59 Bryanston Street ....

howabout · 03/04/2019 16:05

Sorry meant to post Evening Standard editorial. Find myself agreeing with GO Shock

www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/evening-standard-comment-pm-has-put-the-ball-at-the-labour-leader-s-feet-spurs-kick-off-at-last-a4108221.html

DGRossetti · 03/04/2019 16:05

Have really really strong feelings about Redwood in particular. Have had dealings with his son in the past who is an excellent example of not being judged for who and what your father is, he works really hard to make sure of a level playing field for those from less privileged backgrounds.

Presumably a great disappointment to Dad then ?

InterchangeableEmma · 03/04/2019 16:06

A second resignation

^

Chris Heaton-Harris
@chhcalling
After much contemplation, I have decided to leave Theresa May's Government. I'm grateful to the PM for giving me the opportunity to serve the UK and I will continue to represent my constituents as the MP for Daventry.^

howabout · 03/04/2019 16:07

Small World Smile

JustAnotherPoster00 · 03/04/2019 16:07

Red any idea if we're expecting a statement off either May or Corbyn today?

MockerstheFeManist · 03/04/2019 16:08

And the Proclaimers sing:

Nic Boles No More
Adams No More
Heaton-Harris No More
(various chinless nobodies) No More

Rats. Sinking Ship. Etc.

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 16:08

Jesus CHRIST !
I've just read Misti's post about isolation booths for SEN kids being mentioned on an MN thread
Please tell me no Mumsnetter was approving this

What the FUCK has happened to this place Angry
I sometimes feel a load of Kippers joined for the Brexit referendum and now they're like cockroaches we can't get rid of

DGRossetti · 03/04/2019 16:09

A second resignation

Again, it did hit the "who ?" bit of my brain .....

InterchangeableEmma · 03/04/2019 16:10

Same here DGR

DGRossetti · 03/04/2019 16:11

There's a few threads on MN it's best to stay out of ... anything with scientific evidence for a start. That tends not to go down too well ....

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 16:14

@susanwalker Several EU countries like Germany are eager to attract reasonably young & healthy non-EU workers

  • which would be UK workers after Brexit.

They would also be ok with self-supporting pensioners, just not anyone wanting E27 benefits

So for some, that could be a (not as good) alternative to FOM after Brexit

Peregrina · 03/04/2019 16:17

They would also be ok with self-supporting pensioners, just not anyone wanting E27 benefits

This is good to know, but will the State pension part of our income be uprated as it is now, or will that be another thing to bite the dust?

The80sweregreat · 03/04/2019 16:17

John Redwood's son sounds a nice man.
Amazing what you learn on mumsnet.

finishers · 03/04/2019 16:20

bigchocfrenzy I suggest you stay away from the isolation thread!

Some of it is insidious... like have already mentioned Brexit on that thread ...

finishers · 03/04/2019 16:21

Like should read I have

ElenadeClermont · 03/04/2019 16:21

DGR I have listened to your advice and written a very strongly-worded email to my MP. I used the lovey-dovey People's Vote template and finished with the fact that it is high time she started representing remainers in her constituency as well. I have had enough of her. Hopefully she got my last week's telephone message to the constituency organiser, too.

ElenadeClermont · 03/04/2019 16:22

It is the creep who wanted to censor university courses on Brexit.

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