Westminstenders: Arse about Face

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Everything about Brexit seems to have been done wrongly.

Setting red lines to rule out a compromise

The attempt to use executive power to trigger A50, that resulted in a court case

Triggering A50 before knowing what the UK wanted

Agreeing to the backstop before any Tory MP understood the GFA

Appointing a Brexit minister before checking he understood where Dover was.

May going on about NI and pissing off the DUP before they were just about to climb down.

Having a Meaningless Vote repeatedly with a gun to head.

Contempt of Parliament and just general fucking up.

Tonight, 3 days before we were due to leave the HoC finally sat down to decide what Brexit outcomes they thought would be a good idea - more than 2years after that should have happened.

And we now we are told the meaningful vote might be may even more meaningless by being wrapped up in the illusive Withdrawal Agreement Implimentation Bill.

Farce doesn't even cover it.

Anyway Indicative Vote results incoming in approx 15 mins.

😂
I though Corbyn had rejected this 2 days ago, during a meeting with Leadsom ?

However, since MPs now seem to realise that any new PD would need the same old WA ....

Jane Merrick@janemerrick23

MV2.5?
....
Kate McCann@KateEMcCann (Sky)

Labour source believes what Andrea Leadsom has announced is government plan to split Withdrawal Agreement from political declaration

in the hope they can get that through.

So not quite MV3
...

Given Labour spokesman said the party doesn’t like the Withdrawal Agreement but believes party could get the changes it wants in the political declaration, this could be an interesting move...

Talks are ongoing to work out exactly what the plan is
(while journalists scramble to work out what it all means)

@Icantreachthepretzels Is your MP Zac Goldsmith by any chance? I have just sent him a fairly rude email myself.

Thanks to everyone that replied - that is the toned down version! I don't actually care if he reads it all - the heading of the email is 'your disgraceful voting last night' - so he'll get the message.
I took some of the stuff out but had to replace it with other things because ultimately - everything in there is factually accurate: he campaigned for leave, we voted remain, the health minister did say that people would die in a no deal situation and my mp voted for it anyway ergo he willingly voted for some of his constituents - many of whom did not want this anyway - to die.
When someone is behaving that badly (evil - let's be honest - it's evil) how toned down can you be when you tell them off for it?

We're not the only ones watching, wanting to give the HoC a big shake

I liked the Guardians front page on Parliament's "say" 😂

Beatriz Ríoss@BeaRios*_

“We counted 8 noes last night, now we need a yes on the way forward,”
@EU_Commission on last night #indicativevotes

mother my logic was that if over half the HoC voted against an option in a vote like this, and in this case the three options I excluded outright had over 375 votes against each, it was highly unlikely to ever command enough support. If the remaining 5 options (4 if excluding Labour opt), then go to a preferential system, this part is me guessing, the top two choices would be CU and PV.

Ian Dunt is referring to May's deal with the original PD,
not the idea of splitting off the WA

• which all the PDs will need to keep

In Scotland Modern Studies is a compulsory part of the curriculum as part of the "People in Society, Economy and Business" area of the broader Social Studies "Broad General Education (that bit of the Curriculum for Excellence which runs to the end of S3 [Y10] although in practice, many some schools stop the Broad General Education at end of S2 and make their exam choices then).

It includes the UK or Scottish political system but I'm not sure how much at that basic level it includes an international perspective.

The Modern Studies Nat 5 is a popular choice - and it's also possible to crash the Higher (which definitely does include international politics) in S5 or S6 (as ds did).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Studies

This is gameplay by TM to get a vote on WA so indicative votes not needed on Monday. Crafty old bird so we are screwed cos they well may vote it through

Revoke won't get in directly, if Monday is just the op 2 options

but it should come in if the PV beats the CU option

UNLESS bloody Corbyn conspires to keep Revoke off the PV ballot
I don't trust him an inch !

sos MV2.5 - if it is that, not MV3 - won't stops the indicative votes on Monday
It just removes the PD part that they haven't yet agreed.

All PDs need the WA part (I'm assuming we won't just get Remain vs No Deal in the PV)

Of course, she might try to sneak in MV3 after all

However, I'm wondering if MV2.5 was the suggestion that Bercow reportedly made to the govt

So they are now "clarifying" that it won't be a MV tomorrow

It's blind Brexit. That's what Dunt is making the point about.

They could be voting for trump on steroids Brexit and enable it. Or they could be voting for Brexit in name only.

I just went to shops and all was normal to me!

I agree with BCF on the indirect revoke option in a ref, it won't be on the Monday list of options.

Nicole Sykes@NicoleSykes (CBI)

There’s no perfect Brexit deal.
You can choose one that’s not great on immigration control, not great on trade or not great on influence.
But it’s time to choose.

I'm presuming that flights agree being booked, cancelled, re-booked and cancelled again.

If I were an opposition MP (of any colour, including ERG ) I wouldn't trust Leadsome or May an inch and would make sure I was on the House tomorrow, what ever they say is on the order paper

Any Brexit is a blind Brexit

because there will be years of negotiations and the HoC can't bind a future Parliament

mother The tweet you quoted was followed Dunt's opinion about the WA

I agree he doesn't like the separation either - imo, he really wants Revoke only and opposes anything that enables another form of Brexit to go ahead.