Westminstenders: Pragmatism versus Purity

[RedToothBrush]

There is one question for the HoC in the next week and that's will you persue pragmatism or purity?

May looks as if she is being sidelined after a backbench withdrawal of support, the DUPs withdrawal of support and an omminous silence eminenating from the Cabinet.

Her speech on Thursday where she pitted the people against parliament has been her last mistake. She's now a danger to the country's stability and the safety of MPs.

The priority for the week is to pass the SI to change the UK exit date from 29th March to the EU's new terms.

After that, with May's deal stuffed due to lack of support and a Bercow ruling it looks like we are facing some sort of indicative free vote. This seems to be being supported by ministers in government regardless of leave or remain.

The prospect of a Tory Leader Election contest looms. It remains to seen if that can happen in the next three weeks with so much else at stake. But this is the Tory party.

The penny seems to be finally dropping about the reality of leaving the EU and how we leave the EU. A week before we were due to go. The incompetence of Parliament is laid bare in all its glorious full scale.

This off keuensberg twitter......'May about to speak to Arlene Foster - various different sources saying govt would like to be able to bring next vote on deal tmrw, but no final decision on whether to do so - chat with Foster could be critical as deal certainly doens't fly without the DUP'

Given that any extension to A50 has to be agreed unanimously, as long as the UK is a member of the EU, it could veto its own extension

(quite apart from the serious issue of needing to legislate for EP elections )

Votes tonight are starting at 10pm?

On top of everything else, these bloody MPs have no respect for the bedtimes of ordinary working people (with small children).

So Hitler and the Nazis couldn't cow parliament, but Theresa May can ?

I think Tony Blair is being almost stupidly optimistic if he thinks the chance of no deal is 2%.

The European Commission are saying it is "increasingly likely".

I think the chance of deal are 2%, not no deal!

as long as the UK is a member of the EU, it could veto its own extension

It would go something like this:

TM: Extension please
EU27: OK
TM: Veto
EU27: ???????

TM to HoC: The EU said no :(

All this 'indicative votes mean nothing' rhetoric is actually scaring me somewhat. Fucking government just isn't listening.

Still no sign of a statement. I really did hear it on Sky TV really I did! I've got a feeling there is not going to be any indicative votes in the light of a pp saying Blackford shaken after meeting with TM [but wtf do I know]

The statements are at 3.30 in Hoc. Shes got meetings before then.

I don't know what could "shake" him. Seems and odd turn of phrase

Honestly my sanity is wearing thin lately with all these shinnanagons! Now waiting for repeat of interview with Blackford.

TB was stupidly optimistic about the Iraq War. Another event where the ordinary person in the street could see it wasn't going to end well and no planning for afterwards was not a good idea.

No shift in DUP position. Laura Kuenssburg

I think I've reached the la-la-la-la pretending it's not happening stage.

Sky reporting Govt won't sponsor the idea of indicative votes and any indicative votes won't be binding (some of this is coming from Liam Fox and Steve Barclay so not yet clear what the final position is but seems unlikely...)

Sos, Sky News livestream on YouTube, and you can rewind to the interview. Just watched it and he did seem a bit shaken, like he was still digesting what he had just heard.

I think that's thereabouts the best form of self preservation, Bercows.

If I was at work I'd have far less time to think about all of this shit; my op was badly-timed for stress levels!

If body bags were mentioned might do it for Blackford. Presumably he was told worse case scenarios.

Bliar 'Nuff said
We know he lies to the public - about vital matters - to get his own way

No Deal is still the most likely occurrence
It's Revoke that's about 2%

Blair wants Remainer MPs to vote down all the softer Brexit options for the 2% chance of Revoke
Because he wants to force a Revoke, he's using scorched earth tactics against everything else

He is as authoritarian as May, he just disguises it with charm - and to be fair, much greater talent

You know those people who don't worry about anything?

It must be so great.

Just had a reply to my Thursday email to MP (passim) -

excerpt:

I believe that the statement made by the Prime Minister was entirely disingenuous, given that it is the chaos and incompetence of her Government that has led us to the current Brexit deadlock. I also felt, as a woman, that it compromised the safety of many MPs.

LK tweets ' no change in DUP position' so Arleeene, Arleeene didn't take her love to TM!.

@Peston

Brexit shambles latest: early evening yesterday ministers told to turn up an hour before 10am cabinet to read important papers presumed to be about indicative votes (as I reported); late last night they were told not to bother.

Unfortunately, there are several things to scare the shit out of Blackford or anyone else with a conscience:

e.g.
Meds shortages - and contingency plans for who gets what there is

Which areas of the country will be at the lowest priority / most danger if emergency food & meds need to be transported around the country

Rules of Engagament to troops for civil unrest

Shutting down social media

Troops & police defending key govt installations during civil unrest, everywhere else abandoned to police thatb they know can't hold the line

wheresmymojo that could well tie in with what I heard about something being chucked out of cabinet meeting and response of Ian Blackford......but its all surmise till 3.30 pm.