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Westminstenders: Flextension

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 21/03/2019 22:37

Just wrote an intro and wiped it. So this is as quick as I can sum up.

EU response is extension to 22nd May if May passes her deal by 29th March

Or an unconditional extension to 12 April which could be extended with a plan and understanding to take part in EU elections.

This isn't what may wanted. It gives her less time and leverage

It opens up the possibility of her being ousted as PM in the next couple of days. Graham Brady asked her to quit on Monday. Remain Cabinet ministers are threatening to quit if May whips a vote to support no deal.

The talk is May has indeed flipped to supporting no deal with many think she's pretty much gone full on Colonel Kurtz.

The EU are in effect supporting parliamentary sovereignty and are being incredibly reasonable.

May now has to decide whether to accept.

The whole situation looks explosive and likely that one half of the cabinet or the other are on the brink of walking. And May's power is so shattered.

However she remains the gatekeeper and as it stands if she's hell bent on no deal, it will be extremely difficult for Parliament to prevent that.

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MockerstheFeManist · 22/03/2019 07:15

Time for the Men in Suits to pay a visit.

The Maybot has turned into a vengeful cyborg out to destroy us all and must be Terminated.

SparklySneakers · 22/03/2019 07:20

@TheNorthWestPawsage is that your personal alcohol stash? Grin

LonelyTiredandLow · 22/03/2019 07:28

Thanks bellini. I missed the end of the last thread I think! How long should it take to change statute?

bellinisurge · 22/03/2019 07:31

They should be able to change it with one vote and a quick scribbled signature from the Queen.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/03/2019 07:31

I thought this was interesting:

@Andrew_Adonis I intend to move for the revocation of Article 50 in the House of Lords on Monday

twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1108787949594992642?s=19

What power does the HoL have here?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 22/03/2019 07:31

That's how I read it Lonely.
What it doesn't take into account is if she doesn't bring back a sufficiently different question to the House for it to be allowed.

LonelyTiredandLow · 22/03/2019 07:31

Glimmer of hope that the Leavers may be finally realising this might not end well on this Carry On facebook post a leaver acquaintance of mine just posted.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 22/03/2019 07:33

And can I just say 'bollocks' I broke my no drinking during the week rule last night for the first time in a long time because of bastard Brexit.

GroovieGazelloo · 22/03/2019 07:35

Great article from the Guardian Curlywurly. Grin

"she stared at the floor. The sound of one brain cell desperately seeking out another. It’s the closest to human contact she gets these days."

I really shouldn't laugh 😂 😂 😂

NoWordForFluffy · 22/03/2019 07:36

As the EU has now signed those bits of meaningless papers that TM got the last time she went off to Strasbourg will that be enough for Berkow to say its a substantial change to WA and thus allow WA to be presented?

Whether Bercow says it's a substantial change is up to him. However, in my opinion, a change of deadline really isn't substantial as it doesn't go to the content of the WA, just the date of acceptance.

In my job, if I get an extension for my client to accept an offer, the offer itself hasn't changed, only the deadline. Nothing substantial has been altered between the parties; nobody's position on the value has changed.

My personal conclusion is that it's not substantial, no. But we shall see what mood Bercow is in when it's presented / requested to be voted on.

67chevvyimpala · 22/03/2019 07:37

wonan19
So happy to "see" you!!
I hope you and yours are well xxxxx

LonelyTiredandLow · 22/03/2019 07:38

Oh, nope. Have just been told by the same poster on fb that "it's the bbc and media just scare mongering nobody knows the true extent and I'm sure we will be just fine"

cherin · 22/03/2019 07:39

Another pearl from the independent:
The UK prime minister, having absolutely no problem at all with becoming what has since been described by one of her own MPs as "the first major nation essentially to place sanctions on itself."

Theresa May fights on, by using her own uselessness as a weapon - The Independent

CordeliaEarhart · 22/03/2019 07:40

What power does the HoL have here?

I don't know the legal power, but politically they have to be super careful. Anything they try to do to halt Brexit could easily be spun as anti-democratic as they aren't elected.

DoctorDread · 22/03/2019 07:40

Watching with interest

OutwithMyRemit · 22/03/2019 07:41

Revoke
Revoke
Revoke

MillyCoddler · 22/03/2019 07:42

I have no idea how the EU can continue to try and help her, listen to her without telling her to just fuck off and sort your own mess out

Because it will be their mess as well if UK crashed out without a deal - it would have a huge negative effect on the EU.

I don't think I will ever go abroad in fear of being ridiculed for being British!

Don't be daft. The average person in EU/rest of the world is barely paying attention - their countries have their own problems. Would you ridicule an American to their face because they have Trump?

SparklySneakers · 22/03/2019 07:44

More tea and kitkats Brew

Need to check finances today and see if I can afford to add to my stash. Wonder how many people won't pay a bill or two this month or next due to needing the funds for brexit rations?

frumpety · 22/03/2019 07:44

PMK , need to go to work and working all weekend so unable to march Sad

I really think someone needs to follow up the TM statement ' the people voted for pain' , check its validity and then make it go viral.

67chevvyimpala · 22/03/2019 07:45

Feeling tearful this morning.

Grateful to the EU for their tireless work to save us from ourselves.

Grateful to the people who are signing and sharing the petition.

Grateful to all of my dear sisters and brothers on this thread and for the reappearance of an old one :)

(Sniff)

Now to convince dh to March! :)

MarshaBradyo · 22/03/2019 07:45

Pmk

LonelyTiredandLow · 22/03/2019 07:52

Seriously, is Paul MacKenna still alive? I'm actually only half joking about getting him on national telly to wake up all of the weird ones still banging on about WW2 etc. Or is he a rabid leaver too? I wonder how much he was paid by Leave?

woman19 · 22/03/2019 07:53

to Chevvy best to yours too....... Smile
"old" Shock Grin Wink

@davidallengreen
ESTRAGON: Well, shall we leave on 29 March 2019?
VLADIMIR: Yes, let's leave on 29 March 2019.
(They do not leave on 29 March 2019.)

@davidallengreen
Good luck to Prime Minister David Lidington at the next European Council.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 22/03/2019 07:54

PMK.

Am utterly shattered and feel a bit ground down. I want it all to STOP.

But will be marching tomorrow, along with dp and friends.

Part of me would prefer to just get under the duvet and have a good cry, though, to be completely honest. I can't believe this is happening.

Motheroffourdragons · 22/03/2019 07:58

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