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Westminstenders: Flextension

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RedToothBrush · 21/03/2019 22:37

Just wrote an intro and wiped it. So this is as quick as I can sum up.

EU response is extension to 22nd May if May passes her deal by 29th March

Or an unconditional extension to 12 April which could be extended with a plan and understanding to take part in EU elections.

This isn't what may wanted. It gives her less time and leverage

It opens up the possibility of her being ousted as PM in the next couple of days. Graham Brady asked her to quit on Monday. Remain Cabinet ministers are threatening to quit if May whips a vote to support no deal.

The talk is May has indeed flipped to supporting no deal with many think she's pretty much gone full on Colonel Kurtz.

The EU are in effect supporting parliamentary sovereignty and are being incredibly reasonable.

May now has to decide whether to accept.

The whole situation looks explosive and likely that one half of the cabinet or the other are on the brink of walking. And May's power is so shattered.

However she remains the gatekeeper and as it stands if she's hell bent on no deal, it will be extremely difficult for Parliament to prevent that.

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67chevvyimpala · 21/03/2019 22:53

Pmk

prettybird · 21/03/2019 22:54

So the technical extension is confirmed as being to the 22 April, assuming WA is passed while 12 April is the cliff edge by which the UK has to to decide that it is definitely going to go or not for No Deal (ie whether or not Parliament is prepared to legislate for participation in the EU elections).

Tusk gave the diplomatic bit of the press conference. Juncker expressed a bit more exasperation and loss of patience with the UK. They're fed up of the opportunity cost of dealing with Brexit.

Monst3ra · 21/03/2019 22:54

De-lurking to PMK.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 21/03/2019 22:55

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3510056-Put-it-to-the-People-March-23rd-March come along, you know you want to :)

Trekkingbeyond · 21/03/2019 22:55

What if she doesn't accept either extension? She and she alone can haul us over the cliff without a deal??

SparklySneakers · 21/03/2019 22:55

I feel more anxious yet more settled as the 27 are taking some control off May and not letting her do what she wants and to Hell with us all.

I need to hear more about this 12th April if no deal but possibly then a long extension. Anyone know more?

Trekkingbeyond · 21/03/2019 22:55

I'll be there Kitten Smile

JadziaSnax · 21/03/2019 22:56

Also delurking to pmk

Icantreachthepretzels · 21/03/2019 22:56

REVOKE ARTICLE 50!!!!!

just a quiet pmk Wink

Monst3ra · 21/03/2019 22:57

I'm going to London too! Does anyone know what the turn out is likely to be?

OogieMcBoogie · 21/03/2019 22:57

Could ERG etc convince her not to accept the EU offers?

prettybird · 21/03/2019 22:57

And my calming regal cat on a table picture (first time having coffee outside this year a couple of weeks ago very continental Wink)

Westminstenders: Flextension
CordeliaEarhart · 21/03/2019 22:57

Petition and "special place in hell" both mentioned in the first press conference. Any chance of someone asking TM about it at hers?

horseshit · 21/03/2019 22:58

Juncker just said “The mood was light, and I discovered how much patience I’ve got.”

prettybird · 21/03/2019 22:59

The fact that the petition to revoke is now over 2 million was mentioned in the press conference Smile. Tusk said he'd welcome revocation - and that Hell would stay empty! Grin

ComputerSaysMo · 21/03/2019 23:00

Bloody hell. Exchanged a few messages with a friend’s partner, who’s a news producer for one of the big broadcasters. He is happily assuring everyone that there’s no majority for no deal, so we’re safe. FFS, how’s he been working on the fucking NEWS and still not realised that no deal doesn’t need a majority, just a feral PM determined to run us off a cliff?

FusionChefGeoff · 21/03/2019 23:02

Can anyone tell me what has changed about the WA that means Bercow will allow it back?

And also, will Teresa May be breaking the law if she allows us to no deal seeing as parliament voted against that in any circumstance?

dimsum321 · 21/03/2019 23:02

I want to go to the march on Sat but am working until 4.30pm, can't get to London until 6pm. I guess it will all be over by then?

HazardGhost · 21/03/2019 23:02

School him computer !!

And

PMK

Ta red

Trekkingbeyond · 21/03/2019 23:02

Monst well it was 7000,000 last time and I reckon it will be more this time as we are so close.

GD12 · 21/03/2019 23:03

@SparklySneakers The UK has to tell the EU whether its taking part in EU elections by April 12. If the UK is taking part in the EU elections then it'll be a long A50 delay and you can bet Brexit is off. If not then it's no deal on April 12.

GD12 · 21/03/2019 23:04

@FusionChefGeoff The exit date has changed.

Brexshitfuuuuuuuck · 21/03/2019 23:04

May rejects petition to revoke article 50 despite 2m signatures

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/21/petitions-site-crashes-after-thousands-back-call-to-revoke-article-50?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Trekkingbeyond · 21/03/2019 23:05

But TM still has to accept that shorter extension? As far as we know it's still no deal next Fri 11pm?

GD12 · 21/03/2019 23:06

TM has accepted it.

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