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Westminstenders: Screaming at the TV.

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RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 16:16

Theresa May has asked for a short extension until 30th June, after Cabinet Brexiteers stopped her asking for a longer extension.

She has not stated the purpose of the extension beyond 'to pass her deal'. Which does not have a majority, because if it did May would be overturn the standing order Bercow invoked to block MVIII.

The EU have not reacted well to the request. Noises from France sound negative.

That doesn't mean we won't get one, but its not looking good. If we do it looks unlikely to go beyond May 23rd and EU elections.

We do not expect a response from the EU until Monday.

May has therefore in practice reinstated the possibility of no deal next Friday. Or at the end of any extension we do get.

She is due to give a speech on a podum at 6pm tonight.

Parliament has called an emergency debate on the extension to try and take control of debate. It, so far, looks like no more that the Brexit Secretary filibusting. Its going round and round in circles going no where.

Meanwhile rumours that Operation Yellowhammer will kick in on Monday are in the air. That's the first steps to martial law to manage no deal. This is very bad.

9 days to go.

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tobee · 20/03/2019 19:44

When you see reports of the crisis brought on by the cyclone in Africa juxtaposed with our crisis of our own making...Angry

RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 19:47

Nick Eardley @ nickeardley
Having spoken to several of those present at meeting with PM, here’s what I’ve been told happened;
- PM restated the case for her deal
- Didn’t entertain alternatives seriously
- Corbyn didn’t want to take part with Independent Group

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Littlespaces · 20/03/2019 19:48

Shocker. She is still being an idiot.

Horehound · 20/03/2019 19:48

"He will not hesitate to call extraordinary summit at the end of next week if the deal fails to pass again" - could mean the EU are still open to a LONG extension if deal falls

So they just talk shit with empty threats and promises too....

HollySwift · 20/03/2019 19:48

She actually is a bloody robot isn’t she? I thought my 12 year old was obtuse and hard of listening but she is on another planet!

Songsofexperience · 20/03/2019 19:48

Very true tobee. We don't have an excuse. It's insulting for those facing real hardship.

1tisILeClerc · 20/03/2019 19:48

bylinetimes.com/2019/03/04/its-not-just-chlorinated-chickens-the-hidden-hand-of-brexit-deregulation/

I won't cut and past the article but it is saying that the 'rollover' of trade agreements are crucially having some existing safeguards removed without MPs being made aware.
When RTB posted her link it occurred to me that the 'terms' of the 'yellowhammer' plans should be investigated/looked at, if available. Are any 'research hounds' on here able to do this?

tobee · 20/03/2019 19:48

So pix of inside Downing St set up shows crest on podium???

TheMostBoringPersonEver · 20/03/2019 19:49

What time is Corbyn and will it be on sky tv? Otherwise will swap to sky website

EweSurname · 20/03/2019 19:49

Jessica Elgot
@jessicaelgot
Some pretty punchy words from Vince Cable: "Jeremy Corbyn’s kinder, gentler politics was found wanting as he stomped out of the meeting before it began rather than breathe the same air as Chuka Umunna.”

RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 19:49

So the poll which said that 90% of people thought Brexit was a national humiliation had a second part

Sky data @ skydata
Which of the following, if any, do you think is most to blame for the UK government and the EU not being able to agree a Brexit deal MPs are willing to accept?

UK government 34%
MPs 26%
The EU 7%
All equally 24%
None of these 7%
Don't know 2%

Interesting...

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NoWordForFluffy · 20/03/2019 19:49

I thought she was going at next GE? That's a new tack from her. 😱😱

Shame everything else was the hackneyed tripe.

Songsofexperience · 20/03/2019 19:50

shows crest on podium

What would that mean? (Sorry, not sure of the significance)

SparklySneakers · 20/03/2019 19:52

Feel like I'm part of a tense psychological thriller bizarrely watching yet one of the most or cast members along with millions of others awaiting our doom.

JustHereForASec · 20/03/2019 19:52

Corbyn just takes the biscuit, doesn't he.

I despise him despite my best intentions.

tobee · 20/03/2019 19:52

That's what I was hoping people would remind me Songof

OhYouBadBadKitten · 20/03/2019 19:52

It means she's there on government business, not resigning. I have no idea why anyone thinks she would resign at this point.

Holidayshopping · 20/03/2019 19:52

Another speech by TM saying the same bloody thing.

Everyone hates the stupid plan but we’ve got to have it and MPs have got to agree to it really really really quickly! Even though it’s shit!

It’s the will of the people, apparently Angry

InterchangeableEmma · 20/03/2019 19:53

Lewis Goodall
(@lewis_goodall)
There has surely never been a prime minister to have cared so little for the will of Parliament, to have treated it with such disdain. For a conservative pm, of all pms, a prime minister who says she wishes to restore parliament’s sovereignty, it is a bizarre turn of events.

March 20, 2019

blibblibs · 20/03/2019 19:53

A lurker just popping up to ask what would actually happen if she resigns in the next half hour, however unlikely that might be?

wheresmymojo · 20/03/2019 19:53

Fucking hell. I've been in meetings all day and come out to even more of a shit show. ShockSadAngry

tobee · 20/03/2019 19:54

Thanks OhYouBad. Obviously most likely she's not resigning but ....

OhYouBadBadKitten · 20/03/2019 19:54

Littlespaces, those no deal notices have been going for ages and ages. Hundreds of the fuckers every day.

RedToothBrush · 20/03/2019 19:54

Theo Usherwood@theousherwood
Understand that if there is a statement later, the PM will not be resigning and she will not be triggering a general election.

Instead, she will attempt to go above the heads of MPs and appeal to the country to get behind her deal.

This makes me nervous.

May needs the MPs to back the deal. Otherwise she can't pass it. Unless she bypasses parliament somehow (which has long been something I've wondered if she would attempt at the last minute - for 'national security' type reasons).

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Songsofexperience · 20/03/2019 19:55

Thanks OYBBK

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