How likely is it that we will crash out with no deal in nine days time?

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Just that really. Do we think Theresa May will be able to secure a short extension from the EU and if she can’t, does that mean we’ll be crashing out with no deal in just nine days time?

@havingtochangeusernameagain the EU wouldn't be causing No Deal so they aren't throwing Ireland under a bus. Ireland would face a UK inflicted No Deal with 26 mates.

I think the EU feels they can help the Republic of Ireland, if needed - it can definitely prop it up economically, albeit it has lot less power to prevent terrorism...but of course it would lead up to a 'very interesting' EU election.
I don't know enough to draw comparisons...but Greece economy is much smaller than the UK, its population is also smaller, and it only has one EU border (right? Bulgaria? who doesn't have euro or schengen yet?), and it was still a member when it had that crisis, it never officially wanted to leave, it was imploding as an economy and there were political fights about the euro, but no formal notification. I don't think we could compare the circumstances?

That speech was definitely ill advised and I think although thr deal was already on the green mile. It's now game over totally for it.

And with it will come Teresa mays resignation next week. And after that a lengthy delay and a leadership contest possibly even a sexond referendum.

On a more humane note, I don't know how that woman is still standing. I watched her being attacked from all sides in thr House of Commons yesterday and I've never seen anything like it, it was prolonged, repeated and vicious. The pressure she is under really is inhumane, and as mugh as she has to shoulder some responsibility I also think thr MPs have to be responsible for how they have behaved too.

It really is shameful. To watch them all ripping each other to shreds like this. Whilst standing on the world stage.

Bluntness, I can't feel an ounce of sympathy for her. She is the one who's inhumane. MPs are simply doing their job. If she can't handle it she should fuck off.

My heart simply bleeds for poor Theresa the Autocrat.

The sooner she departs the stage the better.

I have some empathy because I do think she's been trying to deliver on thr vote in the best way possible, but I think the pressure is starting to show now

Whatever your politics though I think there has to be an element of empathy watching a human being under this amount of pressure and volume of attacks.

None. She chose this path when she became leader. She chose her red lines, she chose to alienate those who voted Remain, she chose to call people 'citizens of nowhere', she chose to trigger Article 50 in a show of bravado but without any plan in place (I also have scorn for every MP who enabled this triggering).

When this is over May will retire to her lovely life with her beautiful home and her extremely wealthy husband. She will be entirely unaffected by this mess.

Agreed, WaterQuarter. She doesn't deserve sympathy.

the EU wouldn't be causing No Deal so they aren't throwing Ireland under a bus. Ireland would face a UK inflicted No Deal with 26 mates

I am still flabbergasted as to how we have got to where we are, given the GFA (and Gibraltar, who everyone ignores).

My point was that the EU won't just turn around and say "oh just bugger off and stew in your own juice", however much they'd like to.

By the way a few UK politicians is not "the UK". Rather a lot of us voted against this shitstorm. Rather a lot of us voted for parties other than the Tories. We are as much victims of this as anyone else - Irish, EU citizens in the UK, etc.

Well, I've slightly changed my opinion since yesterday. After that shower of a speech last night, I now think the WA is vanishingly unlikely to pass. If the indicative votes process happens next week, I think it might suggest a way forward that the EU is willing to grant an extension for (long, and subject to a ratification vote). I think this all the more given that Corbyn and Starmer have been meeting with Selmayr and Barnier this morning. But I also feel the beginning of some hope that we may yet revoke Article 50 if we do indeed find ourselves on the threshold of a crashout. May is clearly positioning herself to be able to blame parliament if she fails to deliver as promised, perhaps because even she recognises when she's on the brink of catastrophe.

But that's just my opinion today...

I have no sympathy for her whatsoever btw. The situation we're in is as much her fault as Farage's at this point, and that's something I never thought I'd hear myself saying.

I can't see her resigning. She's like a weeble, she won't lie down...

I think she will resign if her deal is voted down a third time, she pretty much said as much at the dispatch box.

It is entirely possible that a week today parliament will have to chose between a no-deal brexit and Revoking Article 50, the UK remaining an EU member on our present terms.

I wish I could be confident that MPs would have the guts to do the right thing.

I just can’t see her turning on this. She’s so adamant she will deliver the referendum result.

After that dreadful speech last night the chances are MPs will vote down the deal again and then vote to Revoke just to shove her over a cliff. If only Corbyn would back revoke at this point we'd be home and dry.

Well, her incitement of a sense of rage and bettayal against MPs has already had an effect Hope she’s proud.

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I was out today in the street of Kemptown with @itvnews, a vast majority want to remain and have a final say vote on deal vs remain. Unfortunately at the end of the day a man came up and started shouting at the TV crew and me. Saying MPs are the problems & we are traitors.

He tried to assault me, grabbed & bent my glasses and for a moment I thought he was going to hit me. 3 grown men had to prise him off me. This is not normal, I’m representing my constituents but @theresa_may has whipped up fear and division with her speech last night

Appalling. Lloyd Russell-Moyle is an excellent MP both in the House and in his constituency, and is one of a nucleus of MPs from both sides of the debate who are really working their asses off to resolve the impasse parliament is at. This is so wrong.

Over 50% chance of no deal crash out next week IMHO

Oh God.

She doesn't want to leave. She creating an unworkable WA (bad deal) because she knew it'd never be passed. She wants to stay in

Leading us to a crash out is a bloody weird way of showing it.

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She doesn't want to leave. She creating an unworkable WA (bad deal) because she knew it'd never be passed. She wants to stay in
How does that meet with the reality ?

"She doesn't want to leave. She creating an unworkable WA (bad deal) because she knew it'd never be passed. She wants to stay in"
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If she was that fucking clever we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

What use is two weeks delay? There is a majority of 149 votes to overturn. Some MP's might vote against May just to piss her off after she blamed them all the other day?

Businesses both in the EU and UK must be going crazy as they don't know what to plan for the future.

That’s Easter ruined then.