People who've changed their mind...

[Theworldisfullofgs]

There seems to be a lot of people on the internet who say they were a remainer but changed their mind to leave.

Has anyone who is STILL remain ever met anyone who has shifted from remain to leave?

Because your threatening language is becoming quite scary.

I know many of my colleagues that say they didn’t vote at the referendum (I’m quite certain they voted leave), and now they say in the circumstances they would vote to stay (but they still vote to leave. It’s the body language. Poor liars. Should organise a poker tournament, now that I think about it).
The only open leaver that changed his mind is a colleague of DH who’s Indian naturalisated Brit, who voted leave “because we had Syrians at the gates” (cit) and called crying the day after when the market was plummeting to say “wtf have I done”
All others are firm in their positions

Go down in flames with the rest of you surfer

Does that please you?

Because your threatening language is becoming quite scary.

A bit more barrel scraping there surfer

Now asking for benefits of Leaver is ‘scary’ and ‘threatening’ behaviour.

Give me a break.

I tell you what is ‘scary’ and ‘threatening’ and that is the continued chasing of a project which only won because of people’s predjuces against immigration.

Continuing to feed that prejudice and fuel that hatred is the first step towards incidents like NZ yesterday.

Bearbehind
Is that you BorisBogtrotter?
Yes, you’ve caught me clavinova 🤔
Sorry, Boris - I'm going out now...grin

Bloody hell, I missed that one completely, I thought you had gone a bit quiet in recent weeks Bear😊

I’ve gone quiet because it’s clearly pointless discussing this time 😂

Every so often, I have nothing better to do and come back for a bit more banging head against a wall.

I can assure you I am not boris

Even that name gives me the chills! 😂

Clearly troll hunting and accusing others of sock puppeting are treated entirely differently on MN.

Every so often, I have nothing better to do and come back for a bit more banging head against a wall

So you just post here now when you’ve got nothing better to do & fancy an argument?

Hmmm.

Yes surfer, that exactly why I do it. 🤔

It’s funny how you take some comments so literally whilst completely ignoring most others.

How about you tell us why you think fuelling hatred over where a person comes from is a good idea?

How about you go and find something better to do than causing trouble on the internet.

I wonder how many P45s are going to be handed out 2 weeks on Monday.
All this squabbling and name calling and yet no one has a clue how to get out of the mess and strangely the Leavers are blaming everyone else.
I have been trying over the last what 8 months or so to get Surferjet to come up with some real tangible improvements that are going to really make the UK great again.
The usual answer is that 'I've already said' (except the odd thing which was never going to be achieved anyway) and a bit of a flounce because I was expecting her to think.
NO leavers have come up with any real plan, and you would have thought with less than 2 weeks before leaving the place would be buzzing with all the new opportunities.
Apparently others have to do the thinking for you. Which part of 'taking back control' is that?

How about you go and find something better to do than causing trouble on the internet.

I’m not ‘causing trouble’. I’m just asking questions that you can’t answer.

You know I haven’t completely disappeared. On another thread today you accused me of starting the same thread every week.

You pop up on every single Brexit thread to stick your oar in and add no value to the discussion.

If you feel the need to do this to hide your insecurities about Brexit then I guess that’s your call.

A far more effective ploy would be to tell us all why it’s all going to be worth it.

I tell you what is ‘scary’ and ‘threatening’ and that is the continued chasing of a project which only won because of people’s predjuces against immigration

A convenient misconception but sorry it’s just not true. Your accusing over half of the country of being racist because they don’t agree with you.

I’m not actually, but it’s indisputable that it’s the immigration vote that got Leave over the line.

The one thing I will give surfer credit for is that she doesn’t attempt to dispute the fact her vote was entirely down to immigration.

{The one thing I will give surfer credit for is that she doesn’t attempt to dispute the fact her vote was entirely down to immigration.}

So that's a 'lose' then. There will still be immigration, just not so many from the EU but more from elsewhere. That would be the EU with which there were reciprocal arrangements for healthcare and pensions etc.

Totally agree LeClerc and the non white ones will be much easier to spot.

Immigration wasn’t why I voted leave. I live in very rural area, my kids go to private school - so immigration really wasn’t a deciding factor as it doesn’t effect my life.

I think most people could see past the refugees on the bus...

But the name calling and derogatory comments really do have to stop

Actually this is ALL remainers do. Look at the language used towards remainers on here...

No its not

But i am loving the Freudian slip

"I’m sure the remainers on here have sent many ordinary remain voters over to leave.
The nastiness and arrogance is shocking.
In all my time posting about brexit on here, I can honestly say I haven’t come across a single prolific remainer who comes across as even mildly pleasant."
Quite. It has been spectacularly foul. In no other arena have I heard such vitriol. In real lifepeople seem so much more civilised. Not MN

{Quite. It has been spectacularly foul. In no other arena have I heard such vitriol. In real lifepeople seem so much more civilised. Not MN}

Wait until the real effects of leaving kick in. The job losses, price hikes, reduction in amenities.
Will the 'leave voters' go around proudly announcing they voted for it?

I’m on a FB page for my old hometown. Very much an old working class backwater, the kind of place that always returns a red rosette on polling days. When Jeremy Corbyn said he would support a second referendum, the Fb group erupted with angry leave voters looking forward to a general election, to get labour out. But who are these people going to vote for? It won’t be tories it will be something far nastier.

I don’t know any one who has changed their mind, just become more entrenched. You only have to look what’s happening in America to realise we are so bloody close to having some real right wing nut jobs in charge.

I wish people would respect each other’s opinions and get on with the job in hand. We have to leave I think in order to prevent something much worse, well on our own soil at least. I think The UK we will be ok, but I fear the collapsing of the EU, and what that means for Eastern Europe with Russia at their doorstep, relatively new democracies as opposed to ours. I’m sure they will find Russia ready to step in when the EU folds. But don’t see how we can now remain without letting the likes of tommy Robinson get in charge. He makes farage look reasonable fgs.

There is no one size fits all answer, Pandora’s box is wide open, we have entered a new political era globally and we all lose whatever happens from now on.

Leavers had the best part of 3 years to come up with a sensible list of benefits.

They haven’t because there are none.

Any anger now is nothing compared to how people are going to feel when things get worse not better.

{ I think The UK we will be ok,}
Since there are strong indications that the money for the Vote Leave campaign came from Russia and the USA, and that Farage, UKIP Tommy Robinson and others are largely a front for far right ideology in the UK, looking to join up with far right groups in the EU and elsewhere the situation is far from clear cut. Farage is a 'useful idiot' mostly in it for personal gain rather than true ideology but there are some very nasty undercurrents and whether the UK is in the EU or out is largely unimportant in that respect. Concentrating on a handful of potential immigrants in rubber boats is distracting the UK from far worse dangers. Leaving the EU will mean to survive the UK will be cosying up to the USA, with the likes of Bannon happily sticking the boot in.
A bit of name calling on MN is nothing compared to what is waiting in the wings. The leave vote is playing into the hands of much nastier stuff where the UK leaving is only a stepping stone to a much wider plan.

1tisILeClerc

When does anyone, who has ever voted, have to draw up plans for how certain policies are to be executed?

Have you done it when you've voted in elections? So if a party says they will cut NHS waiting lists, before voting you sat and worked out exactly how that could be done?

As you voted remain, if we end up remaining, do please explain to us what your plans are for the EU going forward?

weetabix the massive difference here is that now it’s been proven Leave was based on lies, those who voted for it still aren’t challenging anything.