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Westminstenders: Competitive Stupidity

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RedToothBrush · 10/02/2019 16:00

A week of wondering which MP is going to be the most dumb.

There is stiff competition between parties and remain / leave.

Expect incredible bids of ignorance and incompetence to curl your toes, with a bit of constitutional craziness thrown in for good measure.

Valentine's Day beckons...

... And so does the No Deal Divorce.

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greenelephantscarf · 11/02/2019 21:28

maybe this old ferry is salvagable...

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2019 21:32

Nigel Farage @ fascistdickhead
An astonishing 35,000 people have registered as supporters of The Brexit Party in the first 48 hours, our politicians had better listen.

Otto English @ otto_english
Yes please do sign up to Nigel's Brexit Party. It takes about 30 seconds to register as a potential candidate - which is why I have done it 15 times.

Just a plea - if you do this please try to make it funny and put a screen grab under my tweet. Lots of good stuff there already

The party has a staff of about one person currently so the more who sign up the more fun we can have

Nigel and his Army of Remain Bots.

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BigChocFrenzy · 11/02/2019 21:32

and I'll also send an aircraft carrier and other ships to impress China ....

BigChocFrenzy · 11/02/2019 21:34

Maybe the Williamson plans on converting one of Graylings ferries into an aircraft carrier
Or a submarine

1tisILeClerc · 11/02/2019 21:37

Maybe it is a new military tactic. Total stupidity so the 'enemy' laugh themselves to death.

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2019 21:40

BBC newsnight @ bbcnewsnight
TONIGHT: Don’t stockpile, but do prepare. We’ll hear NHS England's latest plan for a no-deal Brexit

22:30 @BBCTwo | #newsnight | @maitlis

Uh huh wat?

Is that 'forward plan' but don't 'stockpile'? Is that official advice now?

Ffs.

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greenelephantscarf · 11/02/2019 21:40

harry truman 'if you can't convice them, confure them'

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2019 21:45

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3505755-Gavin-Williamson-or-Chris-Grayling?watched=1

Votes please. Will close shortly after the vote on Valentines day when frankly I need something to distract me from despair.

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borntobequiet · 11/02/2019 21:46

And offer them a cup of covfefe! (Sorry)

PestyMachtubernahme · 11/02/2019 21:54

'enhance our lethality' and 'increase our mass'
why, oh why
All I can see is Henry VIII running around with a mace.

I have a cake baking, blood orange polenta cake.

Jericho1 · 11/02/2019 21:57

Brexit or Brexit?

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yolofish · 11/02/2019 21:59

Is it wrong to say I would eat 250 Brexiteers before I even considered eating my dog or cats? No clearly not wrong, dont even bother answering that.

Also interesting to note that during the rough weather there has been a border patrol cutter stationed off my bit of coast and 2-3 helicopters patrolling. Now the sea is a flat as a millpond, they've all gone. I wonder where? and why? perhaps more spies coming in as a previous PP said?

BiglyBadgers · 11/02/2019 22:12

Oh wow. Loving the imaginary ferry battleships. This is the sort of innovative thinking that the EU has been holding us back from. That must be some damn fine sovereignty right there

prettybird · 11/02/2019 22:14

Hammond has just misrepresented misquoted Carney /the BoE MPC's growth forecast. He claimed that Carney had said that there was a considerable potential upside in growth forecast if the UK "negotiates a good deal".

He actually said that the BoE's revised, downward forecast of lowest growth for 10 years assumed a deal Confused. He actually said that the Bank can't forecast accurately for No Deal because "you can't model chaos" (or words to that effect, can't remember precisely).

No "deal" is going to be negotiated within the next year Hmm All the WA would do is buy possibly enough time for this to be done (but probably not Hmm).

BigChocFrenzy · 11/02/2019 22:22

Jericho What would be the reason for a GE on 2 May ?

GE on May 2 would mean
Parliament is dissolved 25 working days before this - around 27 March, 2 days before Brexit

If she were determined to get No Deal and wanted to take away as much Parliamentary time as possible, then I'd expect a GE on Thursday 4 April

Jericho1 · 11/02/2019 22:24

There are more questions than answer BigChocFrenzy.

Anyone else noticed more military presence round the country of late?

BigChocFrenzy · 11/02/2019 22:26

Pretty The WA would prevent the kind of No Deal we'd get with No Deal Brexit

Instead, if transition ends without agreement on a future trade deal - and without further transition extensions - then the all-UK backstop would be invoked.

Was Carney / Hammond trying to forecast what would happen after transition ?

BigChocFrenzy · 11/02/2019 22:28

The 2017 Conservative Party manifesto^ stated (page 42)^

"We will legislate for votes for life for British overseas electors"

I hope misti & MissClimpson aren't holding their breath waiting for that promise to be fulfilled

Jericho1 · 11/02/2019 22:33

I think we get that it's a shit storm BigChocFrenzy we are now trying to map it in actuality.

PestyMachtubernahme · 11/02/2019 22:34

All depends on your definition of a British overseas elector

prettybird · 11/02/2019 22:49

I realise that BigChoc - but Hammond was trying to present the BoE's forecast as there being a potential upside because of "a deal" within a year, which isn't what Carney said last week at the press conference last week following the MPC decision to keep interest rates unchanged.

Carney did warn about the risk of a No Deal Brexit in the Q&A - but said he couldn't model chaos it because it's irrational

I like Carney because he is a self-declared technocrat and says things as he sees them - just numbers - and tries not to get drawn into politics. He does suffer from getting misquoted though, as those at the press conferences put political slants/interpretations onto what he says.

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2019 22:55

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
Excl: Theresa May preparing to resign as PM this summer so she can influence who succeeds her, Cabinet ministers believe

www.thesun.co.uk/news/8406610/theresa-may-resign-summer-block-boris-johnson-pm/
Theresa May ‘to quit as PM in the summer’ in bid to stop long-standing enemy Boris Johnson getting the top job

The PM wants to be able to influence who succeeds her in Number 10

The next PM will be Johnson then... when she stuffs this up too.

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RedToothBrush · 11/02/2019 22:56

Times.

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prettybird · 11/02/2019 22:57

....sorry, just to complete my post.

It's not on the BBC News clip of Hammond on the website (which just shows him sawing that growth was unexpectedly strong) but he wasn't presenting this upside as "at the end of transition" - he implied that this was better growth was something that "could" happen "soon" - that a deal was imminent. Hmm

With so many people no realising that that the WA is not "a deal" and that the actual deal is still to be negotiated (and will takes time) and Hammod being an intelligent man, this was quite deliberate wording to obfuscate and confuse those that don't understand this Angry

BigChocFrenzy · 11/02/2019 22:57

Or No 10 is just putting out the story to kid MPs they won't have to put up with May much longer